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Silvershield Slime Level: 30 Posts: 108/345 EXP: 153029 For next: 12840 Since: 04-11-04 From: New Jersey Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| I am Roman Catholic, and have (officially) been since my baptism as an infant. The religion is rather widespread, and most people are somewhat familiar with it; I won't waste anyone's time by going into specifics as far as the belief system. It peeves me slightly when people use Catholicism and Christianity as interchangeable terms, because they are not the same thing. Simply, a Christian is any follower of Christ (especially such a follower belonging to an established denomination), while a Catholic is a Christian who follows certain standards and rules. I am a firm believer in Christianity, though my faith in Catholicism has dwindled slightly in the recent past. The Bible is the main source we humans have when seeking divine guidance, and the Catholic Church has always been accused of making up its own belief system; my sole intent is to do God's will, though I can't tell which mortal group I should listen to in order to find out what His will is! I've put off any formal seperation from Catholicism until I've fully read the Bible, only because I know that I will find some answer in there. Any such seperation would only be in my own mind, anyway - I would continue to attend Church and whatnot, if only because I need to be in a place where likeminded people gather. The specific, concentrated worship of Mass is also a good thing  .I do my best to tolerate (if not necessarily approve of) all faiths, though it is rarely easy. When you encounted a true Muslim - that is, someone like Trunxy/Dogan but unlike, for example, Osama bin Laden - it's always a pleasure. They, along with Jews, have a belief system that is compatible with my own. The whole Jesus issue is a big thing, but I am at least aware that such believers are generally good people. I'm not familiar enough with less common religions to make a generalization like that regarding them. |
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Cthulhu Rex Level: 36  Posts: 230/541 EXP: 302159 For next: 5951 Since: 04-04-04 From: R'lyeh Since last post: 123 days Last activity: 61 days |
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| See, this is how people should be. Whenever I meet a Christian, they attack Buddhism and try to make me renounce it and declare God my deity. Crazy folks, but then again, this is rural Georgia. | |||
Ramadan Roy Like Like ...Or you'll be wearing your ass for a hat. Renowned Otaku Level: 44 Posts: 175/816 EXP: 569705 For next: 41580 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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| SS, I appreciate your words. Well, it seems you are going through somewhat of a crisis, yes? Well, I cannot say that I haven't. It can be really difficult sometimes, when all seems to crumble right in front of you. Oh, and please, I believe that I cannot be considered a true Muslim unless I enter Heaven. Oh, here are some more ideas in Islam: -There are no people who act as priests, just people who lead the prayers and are the heads of the Mosque. -We believe that God does not have a real human form. The sight of him, however, can be blinding, as seen with prophet Musa (Moses), though I'm not sure if that story's in the Bible/Torah or not. -There are no pictures of any prophet, angel, any other figure mentioned in the Qu'ran. -Nobody, except the very holy people and prophets will enter the afterlife upon their death. Everyone else has to wait until Judgement Day. (I BELIEVE that's what it is, not TOTALLY sure.) |
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Silvershield Slime Level: 30 Posts: 110/345 EXP: 153029 For next: 12840 Since: 04-11-04 From: New Jersey Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Not to sound self-righteous, but any Christian who violently or maliciously attacks a fellow human in response to ethnicity, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, or just about anything else is a Christian that I am ashamed to be associated with. As I've said, we need not approve of what somebody else does, but we must tolerate it. Also, as Trunxy/Dogan's said, anyone who violates the above "code" is not a true follower of the faith. | |||
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Cthulhu Rex Level: 36 Posts: 235/541 EXP: 302159 For next: 5951 Since: 04-04-04 From: R'lyeh Since last post: 123 days Last activity: 61 days |
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| Well, Buddhism denies all earthly pleasures. That's a bit hard to follow, but it seems like most pleasures (i.e. sex, laziness) would be easy to give up. | |||
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Silvershield Slime Level: 30 Posts: 112/345 EXP: 153029 For next: 12840 Since: 04-11-04 From: New Jersey Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| I'm no expert, but I think the novel Siddhartha has made me more informed than most when it comes to Buddhism. Surely the denial of all worldy things is a near-impossible task; is it a strict tenet, or just a guideline? |
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Cthulhu Rex Level: 36 Posts: 241/541 EXP: 302159 For next: 5951 Since: 04-04-04 From: R'lyeh Since last post: 123 days Last activity: 61 days |
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| Guideline. We have to give up pleasures mostly, and live a life that binds us to ourselves. Without these pleasures, we become much more attuned to the world, and after many thousands of lives we will be enlightened and enter Nirvana, which is annhilation. | |||
Clockworkz Birdo  "Hoargh! Take your shoes off!" Level: 64  Posts: 674/2002 EXP: 2188320 For next: 25777 Since: 03-15-04 From: Undisclosed Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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| This post is not intended to slander or flame anyone: it's just my beliefs; can you deal with that? Good. I am a pure atheist. I do not believe in god; i do not believe that there ever was a god, or ever shall be a god. I believe in science; and that whole cock and bull story about Adam and Eve was bullshit. As was all those 'miracles', Noah's Ark, Moses, all of that. I DO believe there was a man named Jesus and I DO believe he was killed for his beliefs. I do NOT believe he is the son of god. I do not believe in heaven, hell, or souls. I do not believe in angels, or the devil, or the apcolypse. I actually do believe in one thing: The sun. Yes, I got this part from Carlin, but I've adopted it as my own. You can see the sun; kinda helps the credability. Second, it gives us everything we need: Heat, light, food, etc. Now on to my problem with Christianity: too many fucking hypocrits. Christianity teaches to practice love, kindness, humility and all that jazz, but no one pays a rat's ass-load worth of attention to that. How dare they call themselves Christian when they bash gays, blacks, and other cultures and especially those who don't believe in their god. This is religion in a nutshell: "Do you believe in god?" "No." *chik-chik; BANG!* "Do you believe in god?" "Yes." "My god?" "No." *chik-chik; BANG!* "My god has a bigger dick than you're god!" Muslim? No. Too violent. From what I've seen, set one non-muslim pinky toe on their holy ground, and you're dead, pal. Buddhist? Nope. What's the point in living if you can't indulge yourself once in a while? Go on; you deserve it. You're Buddhist; you lead a nice, kind life; live it up! Jewish? Nah. Too much worship. They really get into it; and any religion that promotes cutting a little kids penis is not for me. Sorry. I also don't feel like learning Hebrew; I'm having a hard enough time with my German. Anyway, I've also come to the conclusion that Christian fundamentalist, Jewish fundamentalist and Muslim fundamentalist groups are going to make this country very interesting for a long time. I've decided to say, "Fuck it" and just go neutral. (edited by drjayphd on 05-14-04 04:58 PM) |
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Cthulhu Rex Level: 36 Posts: 244/541 EXP: 302159 For next: 5951 Since: 04-04-04 From: R'lyeh Since last post: 123 days Last activity: 61 days |
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| Heh. You are very strongly opiniated on this topic. I said "guidelines", so trust me, you won't live the perfect life until the right life comes around. I don't plan to be a pure Buddhist and join my fellows living in a monastary, no, I'll indulge all I want. A few things, like violence, sex, and laziness are pleasures I will not indulge in very much. You will be able to tell when the right life comes around, and trust me, for me, this isn't it... | |||
Wlokos Red Paratroopa Level: 22 Posts: 6/176 EXP: 54880 For next: 3470 Since: 04-29-04 Since last post: 11 days Last activity: 10 days |
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| I'm Jewish. I was born that way, And I have thought deeply to myself, before commiting myself to the hevy studying for my bar-mitzvah, if I truly belived it. After about two weeks of soul-searching, I decided that it was my faith, now and forever. One problem I had was keeping kosher. This is, for those wwho don't know, not eating meat and cheese together, slaughtering animals in a special way so as to avoid their pain, and other, more complex rules. I decided that rather than spend my life careful watching everything I eat, and rather than disobeying G-d's orders (In the Jewish religon, the Lord's name is never written out fully. The Torah (Jewish Bible) is the only place it is ever to be written, and we must say "Adonai" Rather than the real name. Anyone who says his holy name isn't going to go to heaven. Anyway, rather than not keep kosher I became a vegitarian, so I didn't have worry about what meats to eat, choosing to instead not eat them at all. I do not regret any of those decisions. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 543/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Cthulhu That's the problem. People who claim to be Christians are giving us a bad name. Silvershield represents the faith very well. He is a true Christian, not those others. There are so many "Christians by name, not by heart" out there that drag the name is the dirt. It's a shame that people base their opinions on them. Clockworkz, that was highly offensive. You may not have meant it to be but it was. Not only was it offensive but it was highly uneducated as well. You really don't know that much about the major religions do you? The remarks you made were really childish. And don't think I'm biased against you either. There have been other atheists in this thread and they posted their beliefs (or lack of rather) in a very respectful and intelligent manner. It's sad that you couldn't do the same.  |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38  Posts: 154/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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| Ah, Christians saying that other Christians aren't really Christians.. now there's something that never ceases to amuse me. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 544/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by hhallahh Are you going to explain why or.....? |
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Silvershield Slime Level: 30 Posts: 117/345 EXP: 153029 For next: 12840 Since: 04-11-04 From: New Jersey Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by LegionThank you, I am flattered .Originally posted by hhallahhWhy the smug, malicious, yet entirely unjustified and unexplained comment? |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38 Posts: 155/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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| It's unjustified that it amuses me? It's hard to justify what amuses you.. The sympathetic, do-gooder Christian is just one flavor of a million. It's one thing to believe your own flavor to be correct (I mean, you have to do that, right?), but it's another thing to say that those who don't agree with your flavors aren't part of the same, objectively-defined group. It's like saying that black people who vote Republican aren't really black. Christians who aren't X aren't really Christians. It's.. not logical. And it tends to piss people off. (edited by hhallahh on 04-28-04 11:07 PM) |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 546/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Ok, compare a religion to a race and a political faction. That's a real good one. Now that that's out of the way... That "X" you speak of is one clearly defined thing. To be a Christian you must accept the fact that Jesus is the only son of God and he came down to the Earth to be sacrificed and carry the burden of our original sin so that we may be righteous enough to live with God in the kingdom of Heaven for all eternity. Accepting him as a lord and saviour also consists of you living your life through him. That is to say, live a Christ like life by learning/living your life from his teachings. Now, Christians who don't do that reject the teachings and lifestyle of Christ which means they aren't truly Christians after all. This doesn't mean we're perfect. When we makes mistakes, we repent for them and try our best to learn from our mistakes and go from there. Now some Christians think "Well, I can do this, this, and this and it will be ok because I'll be forgiven for it anyway." Then they proceed to blatently sin without heed or caution thinking it wont matter because they're Christian and they'll be forgiven for it. With that mentality, they have already rejected Christ. I don't see what's so illogical about that. |
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Silvershield Slime Level: 30 Posts: 120/345 EXP: 153029 For next: 12840 Since: 04-11-04 From: New Jersey Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by hhallahhNo, it's unjustified in the sense that you made a statement without offering an explanation - a justification, if you will - for making that statement. I was referring more to the hostile nature of your entire post and your reason for making it, not the fact that something amuses you. I'd respond to the remainder of your crazy-talk, but Legion already has  . |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38 Posts: 156/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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| Crazy talk? Unjustified hostile post! D:< Oh well. A statement can be justified without a justification being provided. 0_o; I could say that there are nine planets in the solar system... certainly such a thing would be justified without my naming every one. Truth justifies truth. Now, if you want an explanation, well... that's different. Ok, compare a religion to a race and a political faction. That's a real good one. It is if you "get it". Now, Christians who don't do that reject the teachings and lifestyle of Christ which means they aren't truly Christians after all. This doesn't mean we're perfect. When we makes mistakes, we repent for them and try our best to learn from our mistakes and go from there. Now some Christians think "Well, I can do this, this, and this and it will be ok because I'll be forgiven for it anyway." Then they proceed to blatently sin without heed or caution thinking it wont matter because they're Christian and they'll be forgiven for it. With that mentality, they have already rejected Christ. Um, okay. I'll agree with that. However, if the teachings of Christ lead you to attack other religions, as it certainly has for millions of others throughout history, does that mean that you're not a Christian? There are many interpretations of Christ, and it's pretty narrow for any group to not only allocate "The Truth" to itself but to say that other groups aren't really Christian, since they're not doing things "the right way". You originally posted saying that people who are agressive towards other religions weren't Christian, and I'm responding to that. (edited by hhallahh on 04-28-04 11:55 PM) |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 149/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| In recent years I've shifted away from being religious simply because I don't trust religion. Constraining my own behavior based literally on "leaps of faith" just doesn't seem like a good idea. It's not that I wish to analyze the world relativistically, that is that good and evil are relative, but rather that it seems to me that religion is used to control people. Or should I say, it is a process whereby people allow themselves to be controlled. The fact that there are several very rich religions out there already seems to tell me that an axomatic approach to religion fails everytime, because people can't (or won't) agree on fundamental principles. Take the abortion situation for example. I'm sure if we got right to the core of it, most of us would probably argue that abortion is a contemptible and evil practice. On the other hand, pro-choice people view the matter as a matter of liberality of the body, and a woman's right to choose. So in essence their opposing arguments aren't strictly antithesis, because they are based on different principles. One favors the rights of a child, the other favors the rights of the mother. Even still, one can approach the issue from a practicality standpoint. Does God want me to raise a child in this world if I can't pay to support him? What good would that do? Or if you take a platonic (forms) approach, killing the baby doesn't kill its soul, as it can be reborn later. Hence, it's a jumbled pile of crap  . |
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CESum Red Goomba Level: 11  Posts: 34/36 EXP: 5267 For next: 718 Since: 03-17-04 From: Southern California Since last post: 552 days Last activity: 303 days |
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| I have assembled my own religion, a piecemeal patchwork quilt of Buddhist, Zen, Jewish, Christian, and Muslim religions. I think God created science, which then evolved at its own pace. I feel that God is more of a catalyst for events in the world, and ultimately, it is our own decisions that lead to our own personal salvation or damnation. Ifeel that God is everywhere and everything, fluid as water. |
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