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Can the war in Iraq be justified?
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alte Hexe

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Posted on 07-14-05 07:14 AM Link | Quote
You didn't take out Stalin though...
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Posted on 07-14-05 07:21 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, death and his own crappy ruling style lead to the fall of the Iron Curtain.
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Posted on 07-14-05 07:28 AM Link | Quote
Well, Breshnev could be more accounted to the destruction of the Iron Curtain. Under Krushev the Soviet Union had a bit of a rebound, but then the Stalinists gained control again. Perhaps Snowball the Pig would've made some changes had he not been expelled...But yeah. Can't change the past.

America didn't get to Hitler, either. It was Russia who would've theoretically gotten there first. It was more than just America that ended that war. Given that all sides suffered terribly, I think it is fair to say that Britain and Her colonies, the Soviet Union, the various resistance groups, Charles DuGall and the free French and other forces ended that war just as much as America.
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Posted on 07-14-05 09:08 AM Link | Quote
The USSR *did* get there first. It turned the tide in 42-43, it engaged and fought back 90% of the Reich's forces, it entered Berlin.
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Posted on 08-18-05 10:11 AM Link | Quote
Did you guy have watched Farheniet 9/11? If no, you should

Anyway,there a quebec reporter called normand lester prove that saddam is not just innocent but he was doing buisness with bush dad for chemical wepon, why. Because there were a war against the Iran and Irak and US don't want Iran to grow enough to be powerful,so insted than doing the dirty job they let saddam do it and they accuse it to posess the weapon they give him. I will never understand US
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Posted on 08-18-05 12:25 PM Link | Quote
that movie is full of crap and Michael Moore is a liar and a fake.... maybe someone should send him over to Iraq
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Posted on 08-18-05 12:29 PM Link | Quote
geeogree. You're having a bit of a mean streak lately. Please stop posting purposefully inflammatory comments.
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Posted on 08-18-05 02:26 PM Link | Quote
well, it's not like what I said was false.... but I could have said it in a slightly nicer way I suppose
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Posted on 08-18-05 05:40 PM Link | Quote
Unfortunately, much like in Bowling for Columbine (which was actually a much more entertaining movie than Fahrenheit 9/11), the movie's script was fraught with technicalities and stretched facts that made Moore *KIND OF* correct without actually making him 100% right. He was right enough so that he could get a point across, but wrong enough so that he could laugh his arse off at the people dumb enough to believe him.
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Posted on 08-18-05 11:15 PM Link | Quote
once you divide the informative from the subjective you can still learn some thing, and you are right its not 100% right, some thing in the movie are said whitout document and proof
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Posted on 08-19-05 03:29 AM Link | Quote
Not sure I'd say Saddam was innocent, but yes, there is evidence that previous administrations supported Iraq (and consequently Saddam) against Iran. Not sure if it was the lesser of two evils, as I don't remember when Iran went fundamentalist.

I believe the term for what you're trying to understand, Bio, is Realpolitik.
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