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| Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - World Affairs / Debate - New ID's? |
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Sandy53215 Acmlm (10:55:31 PM): they're having fun for the first time in so long Level: 47  Posts: 511/948 EXP: 713034 For next: 53169 Since: 03-15-04 From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 4 hours |
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| I got this from a member on my board and I decided to post it here to find out what you think about this. If this is posted somewhere else then just close this... The story is located here. Basically they plane on giving us new ID's and digitalized and "spiffy". What do you think will come of this? Good or bad? |
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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56  Posts: 1025/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Someone WILL get fucked the fuck up for tacking this onto a military appropriations bill. Fuck this shit, it's something you pull when you know it can't stand on its own merits. As for the bill itself, it actually undoes some state regulations which are more stringent. Nice move, dickheads. Wasn't this the party of states rights? EDIT: Oh yes, it's also another fucking unfunded mandate. ENOUGH OF THIS. (edited by drjayphd on 05-11-05 03:59 PM) |
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Sandy53215 Acmlm (10:55:31 PM): they're having fun for the first time in so long Level: 47 Posts: 513/948 EXP: 713034 For next: 53169 Since: 03-15-04 From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Yeah, I know what you mean. I am really pissed over this issue too. Fortuanately, it looks as though there will be a battle in the courts regarding the constitutionality of the bill, so there is some hope yet. I just hope it doesnt get "fully" passed. | |||
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 1474/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Is this the same as our government proposing madatory identity cards for everyone, with biometric data stored on them? It's not a very popular idea over here, there are not many people who buy terrorism as a justification, and people think it's a step too far. The government argue "why worry unless you have something to hide?", the public argue that it's an intrusion too far by the government into their lives. I'm inclined to agree. |
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Banedon Giant Red Paratroopa Level: 55 Posts: 1176/1408 EXP: 1291380 For next: 22809 Since: 03-15-04 From: Michigan Since last post: 101 days Last activity: 90 days |
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| When George Orwell wrote his famous novel, he got the title a bit off. A more appropriate title would have been "2005." | |||
neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 2998/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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another example of pork-barrel legistlation--except no money is involved  any word if the senate approved this bill? |
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Sandy53215 Acmlm (10:55:31 PM): they're having fun for the first time in so long Level: 47 Posts: 519/948 EXP: 713034 For next: 53169 Since: 03-15-04 From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Guess I also forgot to mention that the bill was passed 100 to none.:/ But as the quote below says we still have a chance because it has to go through the courts...  Originally posted by Randy53215 |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 3777/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I have a 100% positive thought that if this were going to be tried in Canada...That government wouldn't last long.  |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 3710/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Um...... Besides taxpayers paying for it......... ..........what's the big fucking deal? |
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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56 Posts: 1031/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| The way they went about doing it. I wouldn't mind if someone found a way to restrict amendments such as these so that they must be somewhat related to the main bill. | |||
Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84  Posts: 2960/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Its not really needed and people can still hijack things. It isn't hard if you do everything right, this is just making it easier for them to track certain people who can get rid of the damn thing and run. | |||
Tails Shyguy Level: 15 Posts: 49/98 EXP: 13910 For next: 2474 Since: 04-10-05 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Since last post: 139 days Last activity: 10 days |
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| Being Canadian, this story doesn't really affect me.. I wouldn't mind having to carry around an ID card; It would up the security in some places, which is good. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3018/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| The problem with the ID is more of the RFID that is going to accompany the ID--which means your movements can be tracked or you can be singled out as a US Citizen in other countries if you appear to blend in the public. | |||
windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 1552/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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Originally posted by Banedon Yeah, that sounds about right. This is one more step towards total censorship. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3733/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by windwakerOriginally posted by Banedon This is why other countries make fun of our paranoia. It's because of people like you two. |
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Sandy53215 Acmlm (10:55:31 PM): they're having fun for the first time in so long Level: 47 Posts: 531/948 EXP: 713034 For next: 53169 Since: 03-15-04 From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 4 hours |
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| I have nothing wrong with improoving our ID system... But knowing where we are 24/7... Come on now.  I dont need some fuck behind a computer knowing what I am doing exactly... |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85  Posts: 2246/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Despite the capacity for Orwellian abuse, this will help improve security measures. Also, since I will be over 21 and have no more use for my fake ID, I don't mind as much. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3031/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| i guess in the greater good, it's is alright for the system although there has to be some holes in the system... anyways, i just hope the people who aren't authorized to use the new technology that comes with the ID don't use it for their own mischeivous deeds... | |||
SpiderMew Rat Level: 14  Posts: 22/97 EXP: 12477 For next: 594 Since: 05-15-05 From: Another Dimension Since last post: 130 days Last activity: 130 days |
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| Just one more step to Armagedon...... eventualy they wont let you buy or sell anything without a specal "ID" they'll get rid of cash alltogeather and the whole world will be on the same monitary system, and they will be able to track everyone on the planet from one computer... this is just the first step |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 5390/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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If it can tell the government where I am at any point in time, it's bad.  I really don't like the idea of all your money and information being controlled by the government. With cash, you have it, end of story. With computers, your money is a number on a hard drive. This presents a bit of a problem in that the computer may crash or get hacked, but that's not a huge issue as backups are frequent and security is fuckin' tight. The real issue is control. Suppose you piss off someone who runs the system? Clickitty click, typitty type, you owe $32767.69 in parking fees and haven't paid your taxes in 6 years. |
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