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Valcion Kaizer

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Posted on 05-08-05 09:30 PM Link
why does it matter... like Yiffy Kitten said, there's no such thing as a real permaban. its only a label the admins use to tmake people think that they have taken care of the problem.
Gavin

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Posted on 05-08-05 09:42 PM Link
Originally posted by Gelion
Originally posted by Gavin
it's funny when people aren't able to abstract current situations and emotions to see the underlying logic in an arguement. perma-banned should equal fucking permanent banning. hence the name. how can you pretend to want reform when you make statements otherwise?? it's truly absurd.

if you made an arguement for the tasks leading up to the banning to be reformed, so stupid bullshit bans don't happen.. of course, that's fine, and in fact it's something nobody would object to. obviously retarded bans are happening, and instead of just breaking the banning system entirely, why don't you fix and attack the real god damn problem???

you're arguement is retarded in the fact that you accept the current decision making skills and don't doubt the arbitrations that led to a banning. youhave to fix the criteria for a ban and set down clear rules and stick to them. and if anyone pretends things will actually work if you don't, well... you're an idiot.


Too long, didn't read.


Anyway, for the rest of the people contesting this. You must be new, because that last one was my third permaban. How ya like me now?


to the first: go fuck yourself.

to the second: your thid perma-ban... and you don't find that completely ridiculous?? to reiterate what i said above, because i think it's an important enough point even to waste time explaining to you:

perma-ban should be permanent. *BUT* (big qualifier, pay attention!) it should only go hand in hand with so-called "reforms" for the banning process. perma-bans should not be handed out like candy but reserved for the true douchebags. you seem to be either not understanding this point that i'm making, or you honestly are an idiot, which is something i really don't want to believe.

when i argue for keeping perma-bans, more strict bans, i also argue that bans themselves shouldn't be handed out for bullshit reasons. and i really don't understand how anyone can disagree with that.

one more time, to recap, my entire argument is:
keep douchebags out, have a better ban review process before hand. get it right the first time
Legion
banning people for no reason sure is fun
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Posted on 05-08-05 09:44 PM Link
Originally posted by Gavin
to the first: go fuck yourself.



Stopped reading right there.
Danielle

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Posted on 05-08-05 09:49 PM Link
It's nice to read posts around here and laugh again.
It took me a long time to figure out who Kagome was. Why cant you just be ckunk or something obvious. =(
Ran-chan

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eek, when are they going to stop growing...
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Posted on 05-08-05 09:54 PM Link
Originally posted by Yiffy Kitten
If users like Trapster and, more recently, GRAVITEH are allowed to go around and play postcount++ without so much as a "Don't spam" warning from the staff, then users like Leg, knuck and Manda should ABSOLUTELY be allowed to post.


If you don


(edited by Fettster on 05-08-05 05:01 AM)
Gavin

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Posted on 05-08-05 09:54 PM Link
oh well. can't say i didn't try.

and if you do, i'll call you gay.
Aioria

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Yes I will!! ;D

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Posted on 05-08-05 10:13 PM Link
Originally posted by Yiffy Kitten


The admins played favorites, plain and simple. Colleen/Anya/Hiryuu don't like Leg, knuck, or Manda, so they were all banned without so much as a chance.


Interesting you saying this, since you banned me last year with no reason, and Jesper being a decent administrator unbanned me seeing that your ban didn't have any proper reason.

Legion
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Posted on 05-08-05 10:17 PM Link
I like you Trapster. I think your posts are funny. That, and you seem to be a truly nice guy.

Not Aiora though, he's a meanface.
Aioria

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Posted on 05-08-05 10:22 PM Link
Originally posted by Gelion
I like you Trapster. I think your posts are funny. That, and you seem to be a truly nice guy.

Not Aiora though, he's a meanface.


Leg i am the sweetest person evah >D

D:
windwaker

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WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE
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Posted on 05-08-05 10:30 PM Link
I'm assuming that Ace said this was okay. In which case there's no argument against Leg/knuck. Even so, he would be in favor of this undoubtedly.

Welcome back .
Legion
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Posted on 05-08-05 11:30 PM Link
Originally posted by windwaker
I'm assuming that Ace said this was okay. In which case there's no argument against Leg/knuck. Even so, he would be in favor of this undoubtedly.

Welcome back .


Dude, I thought of a totally cool nickname for you. Now brace yourself for this because it's fresh, phat, stoopid, dope, deaf and/or fly.


Ok, ready?


windwanker

KA-ZINGS!
kitty
Come on babe, pet the pussy ;)
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Posted on 05-08-05 11:35 PM Link
Originally posted by Gelion
windwanker

KA-ZINGS!
omfg that's so original! I SWEAR I never heard it before in my life EVER!

Trapster: You must be tired a lot. More than a little. More often than sometimes. Other ways of saying "by an excessive degree." You should sleep more then. kthxbai.

Aioria: I dont even remember it. In fact, I don't remember much of anything. I remember a few times I banned a few members who were posting utter crap. Maybe you fell into that category. I never banned anyone without reason. That having been said...

I think everyone deserves a second chance... or third, fourth, or whatever. Hell, unban Kario while you're at it. In fact, just go on the banned members page and let them all go. Give them a fresh start. Give the whole board a fresh start, before it's too late, I say.


(edited by Yiffy Kitten on 05-08-05 06:36 AM)
Legion
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Posted on 05-08-05 11:39 PM Link
But Tom, that would upset this little world they have here. I'm serious, the server will catch fire. There will be rivers of fire and the moon will turn as red as blood.


Emptyeye
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Posted on 05-08-05 11:41 PM Link
Originally posted by Yiffy Kitten
. Give the whole board a fresh start, before it's too late, I say.


Given that Knuck and Leg are back, this may be the only way to save face, really.
kitty
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Posted on 05-08-05 11:48 PM Link
Emptyeye: It's not about saving face. You don't get it do you?

People change. There's a good chance that a lot of them are on alternate accounts, anyway. Just give them their originals back.

HOW many IP searches have the other "Admins" done in the past 6 months or so, since my demotion? I'm betting less than 5 - for all of them combined.
Emptyeye
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Posted on 05-08-05 11:52 PM Link
If they're on alternates, what do they NEED the originals for? Won't that just call undue attention to them?

And I guess I don't get it, because I'm still fixated on how constantly unbanning people who were SUPPOSED to be gone for good makes staff look like a bunch of pussies who can't stick to a decision. Either actually make the ban permanent, or don't call it that, like I've said a million times.

That's what I meant by "saving face". If it turns out some formerly terrible users have changed, well, that's just a bonus as far as I'm concerned.
Aioria

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Yes I will!! ;D

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Posted on 05-09-05 02:15 AM Link
Originally posted by Gelion
But Tom, that would upset this little world they have here. I'm serious, the server will catch fire. There will be rivers of fire and the moon will turn as red as blood.







Dragons will come out of the sea, bats will suck our blood, zombies will come from the underworld and Linkin Park will be top band in all the countries.
Shyguy
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Posted on 05-09-05 02:18 AM Link
Welcome back indeed! Glad to see you here!
Dracoon

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Posted on 05-09-05 02:19 AM Link
Only guy I don't like is Yiffy Kitten for reasons he doesn't care about/knows and doesn't care about.


Bleh, welcome back Legion and Knuck, I know why the other person was banned, god name escapes me, and it wasn't very... anything good I guess...

Perma-ban would work, if only Acmlm could give them out.
Legion
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Posted on 05-09-05 02:19 AM Link
Originally posted by Master M
Welcome back indeed! Glad to see you here!


Who're you?

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