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geeogree Bloober Level: 34  Posts: 410/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| go read a dictionary.... that usage definitely falls under that definition | |||
Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17  Posts: 81/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| faith (fÄ?th) pronunciation n. 1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See synonyms at belief, trust. 3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters. 4. often Faith Christianity. The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will. 5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith. 6. A set of principles or beliefs. You're talking about definition 1. The topic is referring to 2, 4, 5, and 6. EDIT: definitions from www.answers.com (edited by Zer0wned on 09-09-05 04:47 PM) |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 5266/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| You're picking at straws zer0wned. This topic covers all of those topics. As definition 1 is relevant to the conversation. Topic 3 is about the only one that doesn't fall strongly into the topic at hand. geeogree: I get up out of bed because it is biologically imperitive I feed, defecate, attempt to find a mate and go about all other required routines. As a human I get out of bed because I have to fulfill societal duties. |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 86/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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Originally posted by SamuraiX This is the root of the current disagreements on the usage of the word "faith" in this statement. We're referring to however he just used it in this particular sentence. I assumed a purely religious definition, namely definition #2:" Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.", since he was on the topic of debate, which is logic based. But on second look that could have very well been in reference to the more generic, not-neccesarily-religious faith, in definition #1. Upon further review I conclude that I now hate the word "faith", and will never use it again, unless in reference to the word itself. (edited by Zer0wned on 09-09-05 09:56 PM) |
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Proto K Repent! Level: 27 Posts: 276/279 EXP: 113908 For next: 2251 Since: 03-15-04 From: New Brunswick, Canada Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| Until recently, I've stayed away from religion, but not anymore. I've embraced Christianity, and Jesus. I feel different and stronger as a result. While I'd like for people to realize that the Son of God died on the cross for our sins, and to embrace Him as your Savior, I will not go to the point of force-feeding it down their throats. In the end, you have to make the decision on your own. Call me a fool, or whatever you want.. you won't change my beliefs. |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 411/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| Ziff: true, but if you didn't believe you could actually get up would you try? | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 5270/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| The only thing that stops you from getting up is the inability to do so. It is disingenuous to make assumptions that belief would hold you back in such a circumstance. |
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