Originally posted by turtleman

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I'm good with music

btw:acnt u just rip music from other roms and import them with that with this mystery program?

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Originally posted by Tweaker

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Originally posted by Atma X

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Very good, I want to see more people like yourself. Now, you still have some learning to do,... though it shouldn't take long (I was at you stage of comprehension about this stuff just about 6 months ago,... unless you're futher behind than I think you are.....anyway...).
You will hopefully realize that you don't need any of these other people to tell you the format used for the Snes' Music. The way to understand it, is to think about computer logic intensly, and learn the Instructions of the 65816 Language.
Once you do that, you will be able to figure anything out. It doesn't matter what language you start with, or how many you learn,.. the logic applies to all of them,... getting to know a new language just means learning a new set of instructions.
Now, if you don't want to become a programmer (if you do, it doesn't neccessarily have to be your profession, or your main focus with game hacking), and you want to work with music, then you're going to have to do a lot of guessing to figure it out (which is too much guessing,... guessing is very bad,... you have a hard time finding the result that you are looking for, and guessing requires no thinking,... which is why guessing is bad), or you can have someone tell you.
Now, I can't guarantee you will be able to do it without some programming knowledge, because I remember being told that the Snes' Music is more than just Information being Interpreted as Data, but as well, it is Information that is being Interpreted to perform operations (aka, Interpretation of Instructions). I haven't found out for myself yet, because I haven't looked at any of it yet, but when I do, I'll let you know how it works (unless you decided that you want to do it all on your own).

Be aware that in order to do many things, you're going to need to be a programmer, and someone who understands the Logics of a computer very well (a programmer who doesn't understand the logics [esspecially the core/basic logics], doesn't make an excellent programmer,... or even a good one).

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ASM is something I'm still starting to get into... I plan on getting into SNES ASM once I get better with 68K ASM.

When I said music format, I meant the specific format of music setup that SMW uses. I don't plan on making a whole new sound driver... I plan on modifying the old one. If you don't know what I mean by game specific, I would ask you have a look at my Sonic music hacking guide. All my knowledge of this format is all in hex, and I use no ASM at all to port music between games. Sure, ASM may be involved in some of the instructions carried out by flags in the music, but my preferred enviroment is hex.

If you do figure it out, could you give me a byte by byte breakdown of the format of a song? It seems to be exactly what I need to work my magic. =P

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Originally posted by Glyph Phoenix

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Dude. The whole music file for a single song probably takes up a number of bytes. You could probably fit a lot in 64k of music data.

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Originally posted by blackhole89

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That's exactly how BRR samples work, anyway. You have the sample data itself and two pointers, the "start" pointer and the "loop" pointer. When you make the sample play indefinitely, it starts off the "start" pointer the first time, but will start off the "loop" pointer after it reaches the end.
You can convert every sample to BRR, but some of them might be suffering from ugly quality loss afterwards.

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