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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 3521/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Yes, I'm letting the user decide how this forum is to be governed! If you have any ideas/suggestions/complaints/whatever, I'll be glad to receive them and over the next few weeks work something out! PM please, but discussion in here would be most welcome. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 1649/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, one thing I would like to see more of is -- if you're posting a thread re: controversial news/etc where possible link to a news source, article, etc, rather than just giving your interpretation of events/etc. Does anybody else think that would be a good idea? I think it would help cut down a little on individual bias in the opening of a thread, and provide people with a good discussion point, but I'm just looking for any thoughts on that... |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 1695/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| Given I want to come here to see serious debate, not just people farting around, I would seriously like ad hominem attacks to be strictly prohibited - punishable by tempbans. And I don't believe Ziff should be immune from this. Since him getting banned wouldn't make any sense, it would be good to stipulate that in his case any such post be deleted.1. There is nothing worse than a debate that winds up being a volley of insults. NOTHING. I don't think it's a such a big deal in other forums where debate is more casual, but here I think it's essential. As for how the attacks are defined, I don't have sophisticated language for that available. No need to overcomplicate things though. I imagine there are probably standards for debate already outlined for debate teams and such - but such information should be available in the form of an FAQ. 1. (Of course that could lead to such nonsense as what occurs in parliaments where offensive statements are made anyway, with the knowledge they will have to be retracted.) |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 3534/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| When the forum ban feature comes to pass, then I'll be able to do so. But until then, we need to have a more realistic approach to that. Including a black list...So to say. | |||
Tamarin Calanis We exist. Earth exists. The universe exists. Do we really need to know why? Level: 59 Posts: 445/1802 EXP: 1672751 For next: 377 Since: 07-12-04 From: The gas station on the corner... Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I'll be honest, I don't really see any flaws in how the forum is run now. Yes, there are people who break the rules, but I doubt changing anything will fix that, honestly. Though, a blacklist/forum ban does sound like it would be effective. The only problem I could see is that if someone with unpopular views gets forum banned/blacklisted, they'll probably say their views are being oppressed or somesuch. Ah well, can't blame yourself for the stupidity of others. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 3613/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I'm just trying to find ways of strengthening this forum's rules and giving a safe haven for all opinions. This part of the board is fairly serious and doesn't have the same personal tinge as the Officer's Club. It is a unique segment and will at the end of the summer operate under slightly different rules and be more streamlined. |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67 Posts: 1979/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| I was just thinking, though this may not be entirely relevant to the constitution per se, it would be cool to establish a profile for each person's political persona. The information submitted should be factual. This way, we have a reference if someone decides to argue via devil's advocate, and take a stance conflicting or different from their true stance. The format could be something like the following: Views on Abortion: Pro: I support abortion as long as there is significant risk to the mother in giving birth. I feel that sacrificing a person capable of producing additional life for a single child is a long term net loss, and I believe allowing someone to die needlessly is just as bad if not worse than the taking of a life. I also support the abortions for women who were raped, since I think it has the potential to be a constant emotional reminder of the traumatic rape event. Other special cases I may have forgotten to mention. Con: Against unnecessary abortions at any stage. An embryo is an embryo, why disciminate based on the age of the embryo? agism? Sounds ridiculous I know. In this case it would be a net loss of life, with no justification. Death Penalty/Execution: Pro: I think it is a waste of money to keep dangerous criminals housed at the cost of the state. Economically, if there was an efficient way of killing the most dangerous criminals, I'd be all for it. I don't even like the idea of life in prison. If someone is really that unfit for society, why keep them alive? I don't care about the method used, b/c I don't think there is a humane way to kill someone. I voted for hanging in ||bass' thread, since it has high visibility if made public, it seems cheap, and is definitely not a pleasant thought for someone thinking about committing a capital offense. Con: But there is the issue of whether innocents may be convicted and killed. The moral issue of whether we have the right to take anyone's life. Perhaps the person who committed the crime was acting at the behest of someone more dangerous. Many criminals rehabilitate and allegedly find God on death row, but it'd be a scary experiment to pardon them and send them back to the streets. etc. etc. Controversial Issue\Stance: Pro: arguments, if any, in support of the practice, stance, etc.. Con: arguments to the contrary (do not debate my views in this thread, for obvious reasons, though the above view is a roughly accurate sketch of my views on two subjects.) What does anyone think of this idea, and do you have any suggestions for possible ways to implement a profile better? |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17  Posts: 84/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| ^^^^^----I agree with this Idea, just.. give them a character limit, I have a feeling some people will just raaaammmbbbllleee ooonnnn... | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 5481/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| I always thought this was silly and pointless. | |||
Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82  Posts: 3346/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| What, allowing the members of the debate forum to define the terms of engagement for intellectual conversations involving government and controversial issues so as to avoid uncivil behavior? Funny, that seems to be an excellent idea. Oh well. EDIT: And just for good measure! (edited by Greynic X on 10-04-05 09:06 PM) |
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