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macbee

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Posted on 03-29-05 12:29 AM Link | Quote
Hello everybody! I am very unlucky... Some of you may remember that I was working in an SMW to SMB1 conversion, but another guy from the board made it first (and better).

Well, I was thinking... I could make a new hack, with no new levels.. Just new graphics, exactly like I (and hundreds of ROM hackers) did years ago with SMB1 for the NES.

I don't like the look of SMW. I could "update" it to make it use all the potential of the Super Nintendo and let the ROM unlocked to give to you all sort of a library of new GFX.

I would like to hear your opinion about it

Bye and sorry about my English errors
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Posted on 03-29-05 12:34 AM Link | Quote
This sounds good. We've NEVER had a GFX only hack of SMW...
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Posted on 03-29-05 12:36 AM Link | Quote
This would be great. I, for one, think you should do it.
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Posted on 03-29-05 12:51 AM Link | Quote
I was actually working on this very project with my Happy Set, it was coming along super great. Then I got lazy and never finished it, hehe. Good luck to you if you can actually improve on the graphics pre-existing.
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Posted on 03-29-05 01:23 AM Link | Quote
hey macbee, good to have you back, i've heard a lot about you. Sorry about SMB1 That GFX only hack sounds great. I love an easy hack, cause i suck at playing SMW! Are you going to use original GFX or rips? Personally i'd prefer to see rips!
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Posted on 03-29-05 04:26 AM Link | Quote
I think that macbee has a great idea, but I also think there should be few rips. The only ones I have ever used are the ones that came with DW. Other than that, all I used was original graphics and the old graphics.
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Posted on 03-29-05 07:53 AM Link | Quote
Not a bad idea at all. Be sure to make use of cool features like CGADSUB and HDMA.
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Posted on 03-29-05 08:18 AM Link | Quote
I think it's a horrible idea. I've already played SMW (many, many, many, many, many, many, many times.) I don't want to play it again, only with graphics that don't fit it at all (And this is, of course, exactly what would happen. You know it's true :x)


(edited by Kyouji Craw on 03-28-05 10:19 PM)
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Posted on 03-29-05 11:04 AM Link | Quote
No kyouji, the idea is to create a GFX hack other people can take GFX from, kinda like a GFX distribution thing.
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Posted on 03-29-05 12:11 PM Link | Quote
Kyouji is right, you know. If we wanted graphics to use in our own hacks, we would... gee, I don't know... maybe go to the ExGFX workshop?

HyperHacker, this guy couldn't get secondary exits to work correctly. I don't think he's going to be using CGADSUB or HDMA anytime soon.

The only reason we've never had a GFX only hack of SMW is because they suck. That's why so many other games have GFX only hacks. We didn't have good enough tools to edit them. But now we have a good one, and it's called Lunar Magic. And that's why we've been working on better things than GFX only hacks. Because they suck, and we haven't had to stoop to that level.

Until now. For shame, Macbee. For shame.
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Posted on 03-29-05 03:15 PM Link | Quote
I did the exact same thing with the SMW to SMB conversion, just so that people could use my GFX. You have my support on this, macbee. By the way, since you're changing ALL the gfx, do you want to use my SMB3 overworld?
macbee

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Posted on 03-29-05 04:45 PM Link | Quote
OK.. We have reactions of love and hate... This is good, I guess..

Well, first I would like to ask about those cool features (CGADSUB and HDMA). Any help about where I can find info or tutorials would be really nice.

And a little more information about the project: I will not use rips. My plan is to make a game with 100% original graphics everywhere.
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Posted on 03-29-05 05:23 PM Link | Quote
In that case, ask me, because I can make some realistic original backgrounds. Just tell me what you want it to look like and I will make one for you.
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Posted on 03-29-05 05:57 PM Link | Quote
Not too much of a bad idea, as long as your graphics are REALLY good
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Posted on 03-29-05 06:32 PM Link | Quote
Yea, it's a nice idea, but could you show us some screenshots of what you have changed so far?
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Posted on 03-29-05 06:48 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Glyph Phoenix
Kyouji is right, you know. If we wanted graphics to use in our own hacks, we would... gee, I don't know... maybe go to the ExGFX workshop?

HyperHacker, this guy couldn't get secondary exits to work correctly. I don't think he's going to be using CGADSUB or HDMA anytime soon.

The only reason we've never had a GFX only hack of SMW is because they suck. That's why so many other games have GFX only hacks. We didn't have good enough tools to edit them. But now we have a good one, and it's called Lunar Magic. And that's why we've been working on better things than GFX only hacks. Because they suck, and we haven't had to stoop to that level.

Until now. For shame, Macbee. For shame.


Wow. Way to act like an asshat. Comprehensive, original (no rips) graphics hacks do not suck. Also, attacking macbee's hacking skills just because you don't like his idea backs up the impression of elitist asshattery I get from you. Well done.
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Posted on 03-29-05 08:12 PM Link | Quote
I agree with dan on this one. I'll play any hack that is well made (and even if it's poorly made, I'm not picky), whether it be graphics only, levels only, and everything inbetween.
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Posted on 03-29-05 09:10 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by dan
Wow. Way to act like an asshat. Comprehensive, original (no rips) graphics hacks do not suck. Also, attacking macbee's hacking skills just because you don't like his idea backs up the impression of elitist asshattery I get from you. Well done.
Um. Can I say something here? It's not really that "comprehensive, original graphics hacks" suck, it's just that, um, Lunar Magic makes it really, really easy to throw levels in there, too. Okay, so maybe he's bad at level design but good with graphics, that's not unheard of. So he could get someone else to do the levels, or if he really wanted to work alone, submit stuff to the ExGFX workshop for other people to use (I may not support the ExGFX workshop but hey it's not all bad). The idea of a graphics-only hack simply confuses me. I just can't see how it could possibly be a good idea, or how anyone could think it could possibly be a good idea.


(edited by Kyouji Craw on 03-29-05 11:22 AM)
XPeter

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Posted on 03-29-05 09:39 PM Link | Quote
well kyouji, this situation is much the same as when i released SMB. You raised the same argument too. But although there were no new levels in it, and everything was copied from SMAS, people still liked it because of the GFX.
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Posted on 03-29-05 09:43 PM Link | Quote
Actually, there is a great difference in the physics of SMB and the physics of SMW, and you had some inventive things in handling things not in SMW. The game plays very differently, so even while I didn't like your hack, I can at least see why people would. Leaving SMW alone and only changes graphics, however, doesn't really change anything worthwhile.
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