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knuck

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Posted on 02-28-05 12:39 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
1) No.
2) Yes, because the PSP isn't #acmlm's official handheld. Strange.
3) You got a halfop. It was up to you to either gain some respect for ops - you have an uncanny ability to think that people above you in any kind of ladder system are all dolts - or at the very least not abuse it, to prove that you could live by your words and actions (since you constantly point out to me that I suck at not abusing power). It's true that I speculated on both outcomes in the staff forum. However, I didn't do your abuse for you. You did.

1)
[18:43:05] * Legion_the_Holy (sylrus@moo-6DC48481.hr.hr.cox.net) Quit (User has been permanently banned from EmuNET- Emulation/Acmlmboard IRC Network (Go you shall then.))
[18:43:46] <Jesper> "Welcome to Leg-World" indeed
[18:44:33] <Kitten Yiffer> ...now if he does PM terrorism
[18:44:39] <Hiryuu> I'll laugh
[18:44:42] <Jesper> I'll IP ban him on the board
[18:44:44] <Hiryuu> I was laughing through this whole thing
[18:44:48] <Jesper> I've had enough of his bullshit
[18:44:51] <knuck> Jesper
[18:44:53] <Hiryuu> how far can a guy fool himself?
[18:44:55] <knuck> irc != board
[18:44:55] <Hiryuu> only Leg knows
[18:45:08] <Jesper> knuck, I know. he's permabanned on the board as well
[18:45:09] <Jesper>
[18:45:16] <knuck> dont ipban
[18:45:24] <knuck> you crossed the line
[18:45:25] <knuck> by far.
[18:45:36] <Kwan> indeed


2)
[01:23:18] * Kwan changes topic to 'image links in #links . FKitten Yiffer to do so will result in a g-line - Jesper.

I don't remember Kwan getting banned for that, now do i?

3) I abused my power? How so?
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Posted on 02-28-05 12:51 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by knuck

[18:43:46] <Jesper> "Welcome to Leg-World" indeed
[18:44:33] <Kitten Yiffer> ...now if he does PM terrorism
[18:44:39] <Hiryuu> I'll laugh
[18:44:42] <Jesper> I'll IP ban him on the board
[18:44:44] <Hiryuu> I was laughing through this whole thing
[18:44:48] <Jesper> I've had enough of his bullshit
[18:44:51] <knuck> Jesper
[18:44:53] <Hiryuu> how far can a guy fool himself?
[18:44:55] <knuck> irc != board
[18:44:55] <Hiryuu> only Leg knows
[18:45:08] <Jesper> knuck, I know. he's permabanned on the board as well
[18:45:09] <Jesper>
[18:45:16] <knuck> dont ipban
[18:45:24] <knuck> you crossed the line
[18:45:25] <knuck> by far.
[18:45:36] <Kwan> indeed
And my saying that obviously means that he didn't legitimately earn his ban and G-line on the network. Oh wait.

Originally posted by knuck
2)
[01:23:18] * Kwan changes topic to 'image links in #links . FKitten Yiffer to do so will result in a g-line - Jesper.

I don't remember Kwan getting banned for that, now do i?
No, but he did get demoted by someone else than me for things like that adding up. I wasn't even aware that he did it.

Originally posted by knuck
3) I abused my power? How so?
For starters, by kicking people under the wrong pretenses. And by continuing to abuse people. If I ever did the first - which I'm entitled to, as an IRCop, and you not - I certainly don't qualify for the second one.

By the way, grow up. This isn't about me - that's just a convenient way for you to mentally cover up, to keep telling yourself that you never did anything wrong. There are far more users considering your ban to be correct than incorrect, and I've got at least one other IRCop's support - and that's only because I haven't spoken to the rest about that.
knuck

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Posted on 02-28-05 01:06 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
I wasn't even aware that he did it.
Yes you were.
[15:49:41] * Jesper changes topic to 'goatse = DCC to Kwan. FKitten Yiffer to do so will result in a g-line - Emuz
Originally posted by Jesper
For starters, by kicking people under the wrong pretenses. And by continuing to abuse people. If I ever did the first - which I'm entitled to, as an IRCop, and you not - I certainly don't qualify for the second one.
I never kicked people while i was halfop.

Thing is Jesper, you will never admit how wrong you were/are. But don't worry, by looking the amount of people that left the channel, in a couple months it will be just you and MillyBot (wich will probably get banned for not agreeing with you) in there, with a couple of WebUsers.
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Posted on 02-28-05 01:18 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by knuck
Originally posted by Jesper
I wasn't even aware that he did it.
Yes you were.
[15:49:41] * Jesper changes topic to 'goatse = DCC to Kwan. FKitten Yiffer to do so will result in a g-line - Emuz
Right. My mistake. What I meant was that I wasn't there when he set it.
Originally posted by knuck
Originally posted by Jesper
For starters, by kicking people under the wrong pretenses. And by continuing to abuse people. If I ever did the first - which I'm entitled to, as an IRCop, and you not - I certainly don't qualify for the second one.
I never kicked people while i was halfop.
It's a shame I have evidence, then.

Originally posted by knuck
Thing is Jesper, you will never admit how wrong you were/are. But don't worry, by looking the amount of people that left the channel, in a couple months it will be just you and MillyBot (wich will probably get banned for not agreeing with you) in there, with a couple of WebUsers.
Indeed, people have left the channel. But the point is that I'm willing to bet big money that more people left - or avoided returning to - the channel because of YOU than because of me. People that we could have used if channel activity was the only thing that mattered (it isn't).

By the way, if you knew all along that this was some sort of conspiracy (which it's not, it's just you trying to find an excuse) why didn't you decline the halfop proposition?
knuck

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Posted on 02-28-05 01:27 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
It's a shame I have evidence, then.
I'd like to see.
Originally posted by Jesper
By the way, if you knew all along that this was some sort of conspiracy (which it's not, it's just you trying to find an excuse) why didn't you decline the halfop proposition?
I was told only after you gave me halfop.
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Posted on 02-28-05 01:39 AM Link | Quote
You could turn it down afterwards. Seriously. If you didn't know, you could have asked.

The evidence is coming, it's lost in a chatlog somewhere. And yes, I do have other people than Kitten Yiffer "squealing".
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Posted on 02-28-05 01:44 AM Link | Quote
I never go to #acmlm b/c it sucks, quite frankly. Seriously, Jesper, did you expect anything good to come from putting knuck at halfop? (I'm not taking sides either way, I'm just saying anyone could tell how this would end up from the start.)
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Posted on 02-28-05 02:18 AM Link | Quote
I was hoping it would but it apparently didn't.
knuck

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Posted on 02-28-05 03:07 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
I was hoping it would but it apparently didn't.
I'm still asking for some proof of me abusing power.
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Posted on 02-28-05 03:58 AM Link | Quote
<knuck> [13:37:21] * Kitten Yiffer was kicked by knuck (dfd) - reportedly - I asked Kitten Yiffer for his part on this because I got the tip from someone else - you kicked him because of his personal opinion about OSes. Isn't that exactly what you're blaming me for doing when you're labeling me a power abuser? Shouldn't you receive the same treatment you want for me? (And yes, I would have done that same thing had it not been Kitten Yiffer. I may have friends, but I'm not incompetent.)
knuck

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Posted on 02-28-05 04:13 AM Link | Quote
Session Ident: #nobodysworld
[13:20:16] * Now talking in #nobodysworld
[13:20:16] * Topic is 'TWENTY FOOTERS LOL | MEW2 ROCKS | <dd> eatkids | <Purplecat> NFGAFDGHA CATPENIS | SYMMETRICAL DOCKING! http://www.dra-mata.com/manga/4koma/old/a2-4koma01.jpg | http://nobodysworld.jizuko.net/ <--Join the brotherhood'
[13:20:16] * Set by Kane on Sat Jan 29 07:06:12
[13:20:16] * SexyBitch sets mode: +oa knuck knuck
[13:20:43] * Xkeeper = bored
[13:20:58] * knuck thanks you for the info
[13:21:12] <Atma> i'd zsnes with you n such, but i'm watching and downloading anime
[13:21:48] * Xkeeper is on PHGraal :p
[13:30:48] <knuck> dd sux
[13:37:21] * Kitten Yiffer was kicked by knuck (dfd)

I pasted that over in #acmlm, yes, i got logs of that. But Kitten Yiffer was kicked in #nobodysworld, Bouche's channel. It doesn't belong to EmuNet.

Now here is the entire log of me pasting it in #acmlm:

[13:37:07] <knuck> Linux is awesome for servers
[13:37:11] <knuck> Nothing more
[13:37:18] <Kitten Yiffer> And on toasters
[13:37:23] <Ylle> Try to run sixteen hypersonics AND a 12gig soundfont.
[13:37:24] <knuck> [13:37:21] * Kitten Yiffer was kicked by knuck (dfd)
[13:37:43] <Ylle> Yeah, then youll see windows "mightyness"
[13:37:54] <knuck> I said a lot of things


I believe that whoever informed you of that, red it completely different from the truth.
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Posted on 02-28-05 04:27 AM Link | Quote
Uhm...knuck...you abuse your power constantly in NW. I just choose to ignore you because a) there's not much I can do about it and b) there's not a lot I can do to change what you have to think or say because you're usually too stubborn to get a clue.

Doesn't it seem a little odd that you constantly seem to think that a WHOLE board is conspiring against you? Oh wait...that was Leg too...so I guess that makes complete sense. We're all here just to piss you guys off cuz we're cool like that.

Please.

But anyways, go ahead and continue with whatever you think you're going to accomplish because obviously you know what you're doing and we don't.
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Posted on 02-28-05 04:36 AM Link | Quote
Right you are. I apologize for calling that abuse in #acmlm as it wasn't. For the record, you did kick Kwan once, but that seems like a friendly flame according to the context.

You're not off the hook though. My reason for your ban still stands, I never said your halfop was anything but temporary. In fact, your halfop had gotten nothing to do with your ban - it's just untenable to have a halfop while banned. The rationale is clearly stated in my second post in this thread - and every bit of that still holds true, regardless of false assumptions regarding abuse during your period as a halfop. And you've already proven that you have another channel to go to.

Edit: Hiryuu's post does not mean that I (or anyone else) am punishing you on our network (or the board) for anything you do on any other network. I just thought I'd make that painfully clear.

Edit 2: Right around the time of this edit, knuck was banned. I just want to make it known that while I did want knuck banned (for the respective reasons I wanted him banned on IRC; asshat on both places) I didn't want him banned before this discussion was settled (and indeed I didn't ban him either - which is not to say that I blame the person banning him or demand his head on a plate for bad timing). I'm not one to personally stoop to the level of "if you can't win the debate, kill your opponent".


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Krel

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Posted on 02-28-05 05:51 AM Link | Quote
Wonder what would happen if everyone was banned for people not liking them. =o
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Posted on 02-28-05 05:58 AM Link | Quote
Seriously, I'm not making the "people like him are stopping nice people from coming by" angle up. I know people that want to go to #acmlm but feel that certain people are being assholes to them. And I'd be lying if I said that I didn't think knuck was one of the infective people.

You'll also notice he's just banned from #acmlm - that's the place where most people want to be. That's the gateway channel and where new users end up. It's not tenable to have people there who insult you at the drop of a hat, or mention of an OS. I could care a lot less about other channels, but #acmlm is a special channel.


(edited by Jesper on 02-27-05 09:23 PM)
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Posted on 02-28-05 06:13 AM Link | Quote
I'm a stupid idealist, I wish everyone could get along with each other, so forgive me for being a little sad whenever I'm reminded that life just doesn't work that way *nods*

This really hurt knuck, though, the boards and IRC meant a lot to him, even if it didn't seem like it. =/


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Posted on 02-28-05 06:20 AM Link | Quote
As always, the custom title of someone banned states why they're banned. And as always, a person is measured on the board by board activity and on the network by their network activity. He has earned -both- bans thoroughly on repeated merits.
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Posted on 02-28-05 07:46 AM Link | Quote
knuck, I think there's one thing mom forgot to tell you.

Permaban/G-Line = forever.

That is all.
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Posted on 02-28-05 10:10 AM Link | Quote
Happy birthday, knuck!

<_<

>_>
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Posted on 02-28-05 12:49 PM Link | Quote
You guys need a life.

Or WoW
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