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Jesper
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Posted on 02-27-05 10:21 PM Link | Quote
Legion recently returned. Returning when on a G-line is kind of evading the rules. So he's right now banned from #acmlm. If any of my fellow IRCops have lifted it without telling the rest of us, I invite them to explain why.

knuck has been a pain in everyone's ass for the last decade. He's banned from #acmlm.

If you think these people are good news, go hang out with them elsewhere. And if you think it's ridiculous that I don't have a global O-line when I'm supposed to, I join you in thinking that.

If you're knuck, and you think your ban is unfair, get a) bent and b) real.


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Posted on 02-27-05 10:25 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
knuck has been a pain in everyone's ass for the last decade. He's banned from #acmlm.
I'd like to know the real reason to why i was banned. =/
You know, since Legion came back, #acmlm got a bit of activity. Thanks for killing it again.


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Posted on 02-27-05 10:25 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by knuck
I'd like to know the real reason to why i was banned. =/
Originally posted by Jesper
knuck has been a pain in everyone's ass for the last decade. He's banned from #acmlm.


The US military went into Iraq and got a little activity again. Does that mean it's good?




Why did I make these changes? #acmlm has been, for the last few months, a 'dick-waving' channel. Dick-waving's fun for a while, but it gets real old real quick. When dick-waving gets in the way of real conversation, and when people start getting abusive towards the people who run the network, you should try to stop it. I don't want #acmlm to be about nuclear physics. I don't want friendly flames to stop (friendly flames are allowed and are defined as flames whose main intent is to be funny to both parts and are typically used between friends). I don't want to censor anyone. But seriously. If you hate the fact that I am among the ones who run the network and you don't like the way we do run it, stay the fuck out. There's no excuse whatsoever for not staying the fuck out. There's a rule on the board that says "Don't stick around if you hate this board." Why a similar rule isn't one of the network's rules is one of the big mysteries in the world today.

Setz said that this made me sound like a nazi. Well, the network ain't a democracy. If you think the network is a democracy, you're wildly disillusionized. Go read the definition of "democracy". We try to motivate actions by stating rules against unwanted activity, yes. But the rules are not all-inclusive. We have to handle edge cases. We have to personally steer up channels. And it also means that we don't have to take shit. If people think we're the worst thing to come out of Sweden since ABBA, and they are vocal about it, we can have them silenced. Not because they're not entitled to their own opinion, but because they're not entitled to expressing it everywhere. They can go to any other network in existance and whine about me and see if anyone else cares. Or they can move on.


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Posted on 02-27-05 10:45 PM Link | Quote
I've said the same before, if you people don't like it, you can do as much as to leave, it's not difficult. The question is, we try to be nice and inclusive, but where do we draw the line, at the end of the day, that's up to us, and the line has been drawn. Accept it, or else do us a favour and f*** off
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Posted on 02-27-05 10:51 PM Link | Quote
We are sorry Erk.

-Legion
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Posted on 02-27-05 10:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Apology
We are sorry Erk.

-Legion
I wont do more than second that. (wich i've been saying since the first day)

I don't get it. In the end, we left forgetit because Erk was nazi.


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Posted on 02-27-05 10:55 PM Link | Quote
But the rest of the staff disagreed with Erk. They don't with me. But is that one of the convenient facts that you choose to ignore?
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Posted on 02-27-05 11:01 PM Link | Quote
Jesper, you are my hero. I wish more channels had mods who were devoted to keeping a certain degree of quality.
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Posted on 02-27-05 11:04 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Apophis
Jesper, you are my hero. I wish more channels had mods who were devoted to keeping a certain degree of quality.
Quality? Dude EVEN Cymoro apologysed to Erk. You know how serious that is? I bet even Xk would have done it if he still hanged in EmuNet.
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Posted on 02-27-05 11:05 PM Link | Quote
Ah, very nice. A firm-standing policy is a nice adherent to anti-bullshit-drama-ism. I commend you.

Oh, and for the record, Knuck is a tool.

Originally posted by knuck
Originally posted by Jesper
knuck has been a pain in everyone's ass for the last decade. He's banned from #acmlm.
I'd like to know the real reason to why i was banned. =/


becauase you're a fucking panzy-ass tool. There, are you happy?
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Posted on 02-27-05 11:07 PM Link | Quote
Gavin I <3 you!
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Posted on 02-27-05 11:31 PM Link | Quote
Im glad everyone seems to be getting along here. Since he broke rules Jesper took action. If its a rule then there shouldnt be any type of problem. Simple?
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Posted on 02-27-05 11:40 PM Link | Quote
Bye bye #acmlm
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Posted on 02-27-05 11:42 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by max
Bye bye #acmlm
Yes, we wouldn't want activity, even if said activity consists of around two or three people flaming the rest when they want to talk but can't because they're too busy transcribing WoW sessions.
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Posted on 02-27-05 11:50 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
Yes, we wouldn't want activity, even if said activity consists of around two or three people flaming the rest when they want to talk but can't because they're too busy transcribing WoW sessions.
But you don't see a problem with people talking about Firefox extensions, iPod, or how much IE sucks right?

See Jesper, your problem is that you want to create a Chatroom where people can talk only about what YOU want, anything other than that isn't allowed (and we can see a clear proof of that back when Kwan and Mono got killed because they talked about FamilyGuy, or the comment you just made about WoW). If it doesn't interest you, you won't want it in teh channel.
It's sad that someone like you continues as IRCOP even after abusing your power several times (Legion's IPban anyone?).
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Posted on 02-28-05 12:03 AM Link | Quote
But what things would be that Jesper don't want people to talk about? Hmm?

I honestly don't see any rule that stops you from talking about whatever the hell you want.


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Posted on 02-28-05 12:03 AM Link | Quote
People can talk about what the hell they want as long as other people aren't bullied out of talking about what *they* want. It doesn't happen a lot, but it happens. I'm bitter about the fact that the best we can talk about in the channel is transcribing what happens in online games. It's up to you if you want to be bitter about what I like to talk about.

You weren't banned because you talk about WoW, you were banned because you continually acted like an ass to everyone. If you don't believe that, then explain why there are right around two people defending you and no more.

I'd also like to know why you're not accusing Dex of power abuse when he's done way more that could possibly qualify as "power abuse" than what I've done to you. Oh, I forgot. It wouldn't help your argument. We wouldn't want facts holding you back.


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Posted on 02-28-05 12:10 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
I'd also like to know why you're not accusing Dex of power abuse when he's done way more that could possibly qualify as "power abuse" than what I've done to you. Oh, I forgot. It wouldn't help your argument. We wouldn't want facts holding you back.
Oh it would! Because he didn't do as much as you.
Let's see, after he /kill lots of users for the hell of it, he had done nothing.

Now let's see, you:

- IPBanned Legion on the BOARD, because of stuff that happened on the IRC NETWORK, wich is, as far as i know, contrary to the board rules. (Board has nothing to do with IRC)
- Favoritism: whenever Kitten Yiffer doesn't like something, you do as his please. Wanna know a example? When i changed the topic to "PSP is #acmlm's official handheld" you went to IRC just to change it back.
- Conspiration: I got halfop just so i could abuse my power. Yes, i know that you wanted me to. Thankgod i have friends in staff.
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Posted on 02-28-05 12:18 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by knuck
- Favoritism: whenever Kitten Yiffer doesn't like something, you do as his please. Wanna know a example? When i changed the topic to "PSP is #acmlm's official handheld" you went to IRC just to change it back.


aww, sometimes made because his topic didn't stay indefinetly on the channel

Originally posted by knuck
- Conspiration: I got halfop just so i could abuse my power. Yes, i know that you wanted me to. Thankgod i have friends in staff.


lol, that's hardly in your support. It is in fact, just further indictment that you do not desere to be back in the channel. You basically just sad, "i got halfop because everyone knows i can't be trusted to behave responsibly, especially in a position of power"

now forgive me if that last point was off, because i'm not sure i understood what you said exactly, but if i read it correctly, my statement stands.
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Posted on 02-28-05 12:24 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by knuck
- IPBanned Legion on the BOARD, because of stuff that happened on the IRC NETWORK, wich is, as far as i know, contrary to the board rules. (Board has nothing to do with IRC)
- Favoritism: whenever Kitten Yiffer doesn't like something, you do as his please. Wanna know a example? When i changed the topic to "PSP is #acmlm's official handheld" you went to IRC just to change it back.
- Conspiration: I got halfop just so i could abuse my power. Yes, i know that you wanted me to. Thankgod i have friends in staff.
1) No.
2) Yes, because the PSP isn't #acmlm's official handheld. Strange.
3) You got a halfop. It was up to you to either gain some respect for ops - you have an uncanny ability to think that people above you in any kind of ladder system are all dolts - or at the very least not abuse it, to prove that you could live by your words and actions (since you constantly point out to me that I suck at not abusing power). It's true that I speculated on both outcomes in the staff forum. However, I didn't do your abuse for you. You did.
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