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11-02-05 12:59 PM
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HyperLamer
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Originally posted by FreeDOS
NTFSDOS Pro doesn't fit on a floppy... ~_~

I noticed... Seems stupid considering how the installer tries to fit it on one anyway. I managed to fit it on 3. One contains DOS and some useful programs, one has most of NTFSDOS's files zipped, and one has ntoskrnl.exe zipped. I set up autoexec.bat to create a 16MB RAM drive and copy some files to it, so I just type z:\ntfs, swap disks when it says, and browse away.
FreeDOS
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It's not so easy when using NTFS. Captive NTFS works until it decides not to and doesn't seem to be fixable... (Captive NTFS is a wrapper for Linux to use the XPSP1a ntoskrnl.exe and ntfs.sys to get complete read/write support under Linux, for all versions of NTFS). NTFSDOS Pro doesn't fit on a floppy... ~_~

And for your "other OS" rhetorical question: I remembered ReactOS. But then again, if you install it on your Windows partition, don't be stupid enough to install it in \WINNT, \WINDOWS, or whatever you chose for setup.
HyperLamer
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I'd think if the kernel got messed, you'd know it as soon as you started up, and then you could just put the original back. That's how it was when I killed WinME by mucking with system files.
FreeDOS
Posts: 1112/1657
You don't have with 2000. I do it because one, it's safer if somehow the kernel got screwed up by replacing the bitmap (so you can still boot with the original). Also, Windows File Protection sucks.
HyperLamer
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Er, why did you have to change boot.ini to get a replacement bootscreen working? I didn't have to with XP.

But yes, Service Packs will generally complain about system files being hacked. (Why they don't just assume it's corrupt and fix it, I don't know... What other OS boots from a file named ntoskrnl.exe on your Windows partition? )
FreeDOS
Posts: 1110/1657
They're cumulative because it doesn't patch the files on your computer, just replaces them. Microsoft has the source code to the files and that's where the patching is done. Service packs and hotfixes are always done using the latest version, so when you get them it contains previous fixes as well.

And yes, service packs and Windows don't like you changing your boot screen. I was testing to see how well XP upgrades from Win2000 (the answer, if you want, is bluescreen), and it complained about a "third-party kernel". Not only did it do that, but I had to remove the hacked one's entry from boot.ini ~_~
neotransotaku
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yes you will...Service Packs by Microsoft are cumulative
Darth Coby
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So, I used xpkey.exe to make a new valid CD key so I could update to SP2, upon installation it suddenly errors out with "The core system file (kernel) used to start this computer is not a Microsoft Windows file. The Service Pack will not be installed. For more information, see knowledge base article Q327101 at http://support.microsoft.com"

It gives the same error for SP1. Could this be because I have a different Boot screen? I did it using StyleXP but that has long since expired. :\

EDIT: Never mind, I feel so stupid, the answer was right there in the error message. Oh well.

To not make this topic useless: I downloaded and English SP1, but can't apply it because my XP is Dutch, if I install the Dutch SP2 through Windows Update will I have all the updates from SP1 too?
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