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alte Hexe
Posts: 5228/5458
My personal thoery is that we have more to worry about from something called THE FLU!

Once we have another Spainish flu styled outbreak, the world is bye-bye.
Bio
Posts: 283/458
Well, but nuke is almost unusable, because If U.S.A. throw nuke somehere without real reason, anyone while fight against them and their people will enter in rebbelion, this is why it is unusable, so no need to worry about nuke, my theory in my sim-battle profile look more close to the future
Ares
Posts: 38/47
"There are currently no U.S. federal laws that address these issues."

Well, DUH!

I don't know man, the world is an interesting place. Like with new technology it all depends on the ethical standards that control it. In other words, we're screwed. But don't worry, the nukes will get us before Canada's legion of antmen.

Kent Brockman: and I for one would like to welcome our new insect overlords...

Bio
Posts: 201/458
There a incredibely low chance that mutation can be useful, since a mutation is caused by a gamma ray who cut chromosome, which is part of the DNA, and most of time It cause thing like losing a leg, cancer etc.
Note: the perfect soldier thing renember my character in sim-battle, check my post in the sticky thread profile to find out why
Edea
Posts: 6/36
At least the engineering of new species isn't being accelerated by nuclear fallout from some of the weapons humanity has been capable of creating.

Life seems to be a very touchy subject when addressed directly, but if the 'perfect soldier' were to be mechanical or viral in nature we'd be like 'boooo-riiiing, soooo nineties....' regardless of its ability to defile other living things. Also, if anyone sees that movie from Faces of Death about 'livestock,' you get desensitized to the idea of a hybrid animal veeeery quickly.

I dunno, since I'm not really seeing any difference, more power to the researchers.
Thayer
Posts: 79/988
Originally posted by Slay
No humanzee has ever been created, it's a myth thus far...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuman
...humans and apes aren't the same species, only creatures of the same species can breed. Humanzees would have to be genetically engineered, they can't just happen through sex or what have you.


Biological species concept is out-
http://research.amnh.org/ornithology/crossbills/species.html
http://www.stanfordalumni.org/birdsite/text/essays/Species_and_Speciation.html
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/
http://members.aol.com/darwinpage/mayrspecies.htm
http://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/2900_Species.htm
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cup/catalog/data/023110/0231101422.HTM
http://www.palaeos.com/Systematics/Linnean/Species.htm

And the article you linked to about "Ligers" is further linked to an article on the GENUS Panthera (not a SPECIES), which says that lions and tigers are different species. ;[
Bio
Posts: 100/458
I don't really like these animal-human hybrid thing Its may reverse evolution processing, I prefer another project the artificial evolution they manage with that to give a rat the size of a big dog only with muscle I think than DNA Improve Is better than DNA mixing
Note: The artificial evolution will be released for human in ten year, can't wait to improve myself
Note2:Human are mutated monkey proff we got 36 chromosome and monkey got 38, only mutation can remove chromosome
Tanookirby
Posts: 16/509
Try these two link for some hybrids:
http://www.nbc10.com/news/3450567/detail.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2005/05/09/daily61.html
Aren't they interesting?
As for combing human and animal DNA, let me know if they can create a human with gills.
Slay
Posts: 75/339
The Kitty Jedi says...
Donkeys and horses have bigger genetical diffrence than Humans have against Chimps.

Donkeys and horses can get offspring, look it up. Althought the offspring can't breed further.

And there is Lion/Tiger hybrids.

I think it's possible.


Lions and Tigers are of the same species.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger

And by definition...
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=species
...since donkeys and horses can mate to form mules and hinnies, they are of the same species. Though if you get into technicalities, since mules and hinnies are sterile, they technically are not. Mules are a strange exception to many "rules" that we humans think we've discovered. They are an attestation to the fact that nature works in ways we cannot classify or orginize perfectly or neatly. Even moreso is the fact that hinnies (female mules) have given birth by horse or donkey fathers (never by mule fathers) numerous times in history, though it is an extremely rare occurance.

I laugh, because the more we try to explain the basics of life, the more we realize that we don't know a thing about them! But since we are never satisfied with just accepting things as they come, the charade continues.
Ran-chan
Posts: 9566/12781
Originally posted by Kitty Jedi


And there is Lion/Tiger hybrids.

I think it's possible.


Yeah, I remember the Liger. It looked pretty cool.

JUst put some animals of different specie and gender in a big cage or room and see if they
Ailure
Posts: 9694/11162
Originally posted by Slay
No humanzee has ever been created, it's a myth thus far...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuman
...humans and apes aren't the same species, only creatures of the same species can breed. Humanzees would have to be genetically engineered, they can't just happen through sex or what have you.
Donkeys and horses have bigger genetical diffrence than Humans have against Chimps.

Donkeys and horses can get offspring, look it up. Althought the offspring can't breed further.

And there is Lion/Tiger hybrids.

I think it's possible.
Tails
Posts: 58/98
It's another step in the world of science, and it has to be done at one point, I guess..

..that IS a bit freaky, though
Slay
Posts: 56/339
You misunderstand what a chimera is. A species can only breed with itself, that means that animal eggs or sperm can never be combined with human sperm or eggs to birth a new type of creature. Chimeras are not the offspring of two different species, they are otherwise normal creatures with foreign cells injected into the embryos. In this way, the traits of more than one creature can be manifest in a single being, regardeless of the bounds of species.
francoispress
Posts: 12/30
I doubt making any kind of hybrid with a human is even possible due to the genetic difference between humans and any other animal. It was once believed that chimpanzees shared 98.4% of our DNA but now studies suggest that they may only share 95% which makes more sense. Humans look very different from apes. So it may be impossible to make any hybrid.
Slay
Posts: 30/339
No humanzee has ever been created, it's a myth thus far...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuman
...humans and apes aren't the same species, only creatures of the same species can breed. Humanzees would have to be genetically engineered, they can't just happen through sex or what have you.

My take on the situation is that limits shouldn't be imposed on chimera creation. As long as animal rights are upheld and any creatures created aren't abused, there is nothing objectionable about progressing this fascinating science. We already breed and slaughter animals for food, why not for spare parts? The idea of a pig with a human liver and other parts is quite intriguing. Imagine if people no longer had to be put on donor lists and could just get what they need when they need it. This is just one more step towards the immortalization of the human species.

Interspecies animals (sans human genes) are also a promising premise. What if we could create an animal the size of a cow with the taste and versitility of a pig and wool like a sheep? The prices of these products would decrease greatly since you get so much from one animal. What about creating a species of freshwater dolphin? Dolphins are already quite intelligent, we could use them like underwater blood hounds to find bodies in freshwater rivers and lakes, eliminating the need to call in divers. And since animal senses often outdo our own technological gadgets, the bodies could probably be found more quickly, as well.
Sukasa
Posts: 438/1981
I saw that picture. You can see a lot of intelligence in it, if you know where to look. About the sicknesses, they can be genetically protected against. Why do you think small children are not given 100,000 vaccines? They get them from their parents!
iamhiro1112
Posts: 297/487
Damn, I hope I won't have to see that picture of Oliver again. I know it isn't a real humanzee, but I can't help but think of it when I look at the pic. He certainly seems humanistic.

I guess out of curiousities sake I would like to see a human/animal hybrid. But I won't promote it in being made.

Reading this thread reminds me of those covers of "Weekly World News". Batboy and Horse with a humans face specifically. Those pics crack me up.
Cruel Justice
Posts: 712/1384
It's very complicated. You cannot just make a super soldier, there are many limits to consider. The whole situation is like trying to use your fingers to block leaks on your boat when there are too many holes in hard to reach places. You can't do it and you'll just screw yourself over.

First you've got to introduce the many sicknesses to this so-called "super soldier" and hope to merciful god that it does'nt just croak over and die. After the first success you STILL have to make sure it does'nt die. If it dies after 8 sicknesses, back to the ol' drawing board.

It's bad enough that we would let them suffer. It's even worse to succeed in this sort of thing as well. The experiments can cause some terrible results such as a new and infectious virus eminating from the mutant causing people around it to die or the mutant has no brain power and kills everything it sees or it's smart enough to understand what it was made for and it will go mad.

Overall it's interesting, but stupid. I don't think humankind is truly ready to undergo mutation.
windwaker
Posts: 1314/1797
Uh, there aren't exactly, you know, black and white guidelines to what should/can happen. I don't really see how this is helping mankind, but I don't think the result animal is struggling to say "kill... me...".
Book Keeper
Posts: 97/160
I realy think they are oversteping there bounds, they can say what they want, but it is very crule, Animals and Humans are not ment to be mixed. They think they are heling mankind... but they are making a big mistake.
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