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Colin
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He's ALWAYS the #1 pick, and if you're playing and don't select him if you have #1... you should be fired on the spot.

The league should be calling the PA on Monday but lord knows what, if anything, they'll be talking about.
Seph2k4
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I've heard of Sidney Crosby simiply because I play a lot of Eastside Hockey Manager. He's the #1 overall draft pick in the 2005 entry draft.

And it's pretty much official that the season's going to be cancelled now. As usual, they've shown no further progress in the CBA talks and got nothing cracking in terms of agreement. Shocking, but of course, I was expecting no less out of the latest CBA talks. Safe to say that there's not going to be any NHL hockey any time soon.



Colin
Posts: 6571/11302
Sidney Crosby?

(OK, I don't exactly buy everyone saying he's the next Great One, but if he keeps his head on straight he's going to be a hell of a player at the very least.)
Lenophis
Posts: 356/830
Originally posted by Toxic
Yeah, it did 4 years later when McGwire and Sosa went and shattered the home run record...

I doubt the NHL will have anything that can compete with that in the next four years, or even 7 or 8

The only thing close to that would be some young kid breaking Gretkzy's points record for a single season. Or any of his records for that matter. That'll get the drive back for some, and I know it'll be exciting.

Let's just write this season off already, and try and look forward to next season, if possible.....
Colin
Posts: 6559/11302
He's not the best commish now!

In case you're wondering, the buzz here is that we STILL have another week within this "11th hour"... It's like keeping a braindead patient on life support. *grumbles*
drjayphd
Posts: 869/1477
Well, they, uhm, haven't cancelled the season yet. But they aren't any closer, it seems. So who knows WHAT they're doing.

And to think Mike Lupica called Gary Bettman the best commish in sports...
Toxic
Posts: 2426/2857
Yeah, it did 4 years later when McGwire and Sosa went and shattered the home run record...

I doubt the NHL will have anything that can compete with that in the next four years, or even 7 or 8
neotransotaku
Posts: 2000/4016
the NHL will recover from this if it is ever settled)--after all, baseball (i believe) as recovered most of what it had when the strike came in 1994 (although the steroid thing is threatening it)

Somebody is going to give in...it is just a matter of when.
Toxic
Posts: 2423/2857
Gonna have to agree, that they are pretty boned now.

No one is going to like hockey, like MLB style when they cut part of the season short.
Lenophis
Posts: 354/830
Barring a small miracle, the NHL is expected to announce the cancellation of the season Friday. Now I will be depressed, because the chase for Lord Stanley's Cup is by and large one of the greatest playoff races of all time. All I can say is:

Good fucking job, players and owners, you really fucked up and alienated every fan of hockey.
Colin
Posts: 6417/11302
True but the proportion of guys making minimum wage (NOT the number, the proportion) is higher in the NFL than the NHL, I would tend to believe.

Meetings finished today, no news from either side, rumor has it the next meeting is tomorrow in New York.
Toxic
Posts: 2343/2857
Well, I sure as hell wouldn't mind making minimum wage in the NFL

A few hundred K's a year is NOT bad at all.
Colin
Posts: 6394/11302
A lot of football players only make minimum wage though. It's not so in hockey with the exception of some players and many minor-league guys.

Only 7 or 8 teams would be in trouble with a $38 million cap, the others fit into it from what I've seen. You might be able to reduce that number to 4 or 5 by adding a luxury tax to said cap.
Toxic
Posts: 2335/2857
I think I'll tune into tonight's ESPN radio to try and ketchup, but they had the VP of the players union on, and he seemed dead adamant on no salary cap...but all of his points were bad.

Like for example a hockey team can't do well if there was a cap, because they need 3 good lines or what have you. But then the radio guy came back and said that a football team needs 53 players to make it work, and they havea cap.
Colin
Posts: 6374/11302
"hoceky".

Apparently the NHL's going to tomorrow's meeting with "new" ideas. As one person said on the sports tonight, "We're 57% into the season and just now one side claims to be coming to the table with fresh ideas. We might as well just take the collective and call it the ship of fools."
DarkSlaya
Posts: 3316/4249
I wish that the conflic would end within this week, but it won't happen.

My bet is on that we'll get hockey only next season.
Toxic
Posts: 2310/2857
Shrug, doesn't really phaze me either way. They just never reached enough homes here in the US.

The way I see it is this: a veryy greedy union full of players that just want to play, and a bunch of greedy owners.
Anya
Posts: 3926/5337
I know that this season is already a lost cause, and I have a very bad feeling that if things are not worked out soon, that it'll be the end of hockey. Its a shame too, because I was really starting to get into it (about two years ago). Not only that, but what about all those little league kids who wish to be an all-star hockey player one day? What kind of example is this? Hopefully, by some strange chance, that hockey will return in the future, by those kids of today who just want to play. But really, what are the chances of that happening?
neotransotaku
Posts: 1966/4016
I think the conversation is more like this:

Owners: We want a salary cap?

Players: No, how about a luxury tax?

Owners: No, a salary cap?

Players: No, a luxury tax?

...

The irony above is they are both the exact same thing--it's just that either side doesn't want it to effect them...

But anyways, this season is a lost cause and I'm thinking next season is a lost cause as well.
Lenophis
Posts: 332/830
Just one tiny problem:

Owners: "We want a salary cap!"

Players: "We don't, but we'll give you back 24% of our salary!"

"Owners: "We want a salary cap!"

Players: "..."

Owners: "We want a salary cap!"

The union leader and the commish have absolutely nothing invested in this. They both seem like corrupted fuckheads. The players are losing money, and the owners are losing money. Because of this lockout, the NHL will never be the same again. It's been on a downward spiral already, there's no TV contract, NASCAR has passed them in ratings. I mean, come on. It needs to find the glory it once had, until then, hockey will be a lost memory.

I hope for that slim chance that there might yet be a season, but I'm starting to doubt it more and more as the days pass.

The NHL has many problems right now, and part of it is that it seems to have lost it's general appeal. I don't find myself drawn to hockey as I did 6 years ago. I don't know why either, the drive is gone. Part of the problem is, not that many people really miss the sport, except for the die hards, the players, and the owners.

This may as well be the NHL's last chance to revive the sport, if it fails here...then it may be dead.
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