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11-02-05 12:59 PM
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HyperLamer
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Well that's the idea. If you're going to use something like that to download nasties, you wait until after everyone has scanned and approved it.
Originally posted by Ailure
Althought I still wait before I download this, it still contains adware thought.

I wouldn't even really call it adware, even though that is the right term. Most people associate that with spyware and other bad stuff, which isn't the case here. Text ads are fine with me (hell, I'd even consider putting them in my programs if I needed the cash ) as long as they don't try to screw with things. (But it's always a good idea to explicitally say something like "THIS PROGRAM USES TEXT ADS ONLY", not just "ad-supported", lest it end up classified as spyware anyway. )


(then, I have deactivated scripts in IE. So it would be worthless against me xD)

I really wouldn't think so. Turning scripts off helps security, but it certainly doesn't make it completely secure. IE can be crashed/exploited in a number of non-script-related ways such as crafty ActiveX, JPEG buffer overflows, certain unclosed tag/CSS patterns, etc. (Did they ever even fix that unprintable character bug? Where going to something like 'www.site.com*@www.site2.com' where * is an unprintable character takes you to www.site2.com but shows www.site.com in the URL box... Could be very easily exploited by something like this. )
Colin
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That is possible but I've done some spyware scans on my system and they've picked up nothing.

For the moment, things seem to be running fine.
Ailure
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Originally posted by Ailure
...why didn't they choose a less aggressive type of adware, such as opera has?
Originally posted by Colin
eXeem 0.21 came out a few days ago. The main feature is that they got rid of Cydoor in favor of an embedded ad system which only uses HTML; in short, there's no spyware now. eXeem Lite has been discontinued as a result of this.
...heh, seems like someone heard my pleah.

Althought I still wait before I download this, it still contains adware thought. But it should be as much adware as opera is, unless the web ads is abusing IE security bugs to force install stuff. (then, I have deactivated scripts in IE. So it would be worthless against me xD)
HyperLamer
Posts: 3202/8210
I think a lot of people still wouldn't trust it. They obviously have no problems with infecting their users with spyware, who's to say they'll have any with switching back to it at some point? Or even using the ad code to install more, if possible.
Colin
Posts: 6652/11302
Dunno about PR... put it this way, if more people were using an unofficial, hacked version of the program as opposed to the original, stable but spyware-ridden regular version, wouldn't you want to try stop the damage before the patient bleeds to death?
Emptyeye
Posts: 1434/2273
Too little, too late as far as I'm concerned.

It's a hollow PR move, nothing more.
Colin
Posts: 6638/11302
Just doing a little bump of this, but if anyone's still interested...

eXeem 0.21 came out a few days ago. The main feature is that they got rid of Cydoor in favor of an embedded ad system which only uses HTML; in short, there's no spyware now. eXeem Lite has been discontinued as a result of this.
Colin
Posts: 6413/11302
Probably because it used the exact same method to extract the Cydoor spyware as Kazaa Lite did.

In any event, I did a check of my PC and found nothing out of the ordinary as a result.
HyperLamer
Posts: 3047/8210
Personally, I'm a bit suspicious as to how fast the lite version came out.
Jizuko
Posts: 1048/1191
Here's an article/thread about eXeem and it's cydoor, and also a little interview with an irc admin.
Sloncek really is a bitch
Colin
Posts: 6341/11302
From what I know, yes. Cydoor's running in the background. So even if that WAS the only function it had, it's still running secretly doing this and taking up resources.
Ran-chan
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But I
Colin
Posts: 6330/11302
Cydoor isn't exactly a virus but as I understand it, it still collects info/sends new ads to be displayed even when you're not using the program. So unless this version's brand new, it's bad.
Ailure
Posts: 7344/11162
...why didn't they choose a less aggressive type of adware, such as opera has?
Xkeeper
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Originally posted by Trapster
Isn
Ran-chan
Posts: 6858/12781
Isn
Colin
Posts: 6326/11302
Well, it uses Cydoor. Kazaa uses Cydoor so the method to get it out of eXeem is pretty similar.
Jizuko
Posts: 1007/1191
It had adware? Oooooh, now that was unexpected, I had no idea of it

Funny that a lite version was released so quickly though, I didn't expect that for a long time.
And the whole official exeem site just oozes of corporate. I hate sloncek, he should burn. And apparantly they can't continue the project without ads, because they have so many expenses, yeah, like the people that makes all the games that they had on suprnova didn't have expenses
Colin
Posts: 6315/11302
I'm going to wait for 0.20 Lite... I have trouble downloading anything in 0.18, no matter what I set the ports to.

Bleh. Advanced technology sucks.
Ran-chan
Posts: 6828/12781
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