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11-02-05 12:59 PM
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Chris
Posts: 236/922
Originally posted by High Flyin' Ryan
Wow, I like that question at the end of Glyph Phoenix's reply. Well a lot of people can't draw worth crap, and I'm one of them, so using graphics from other games is the only way of cutting it, no matter how you look at it, whether your draw it or rip it, someone can still someway get a hold of your rips.
Yes.. Of course graphics can be ripped other easy ways.. Not to give ideas to anyone here, but he does have a point...
High Flyin' Ryan
Posts: 81/136
Wow, I like that question at the end of Glyph Phoenix's reply. Well a lot of people can't draw worth crap, and I'm one of them, so using graphics from other games is the only way of cutting it, no matter how you look at it, whether your draw it or rip it, someone can still someway get a hold of your rips.
Glyph Phoenix
Posts: 23/745
I think the problem with hacks that have ripped graphics is that you're distributing them to the romhacking crowd. In order to hack a rom you might have to, I don't know, know a little bit about games.

If I already know where the graphics came from and have seen them before, they aren't nearly as interesting to me as hand-drawn graphics are.

But rips can look better than hand-drawn graphics while being less work. It's kind of hard to find excuses not to take the lazy way out and grab a couple of graphics from your favorite game.

I guess ripping could also be considered bad because you're taking stuff an artist's already created to make your own work.

But if you're hacking SMW in the first place, are you not ripping from a game already?
Juggling Joker
Posts: 445/1033
Yeah, cuz it's not like any graphics artists work for Nintendo or anything.
High Flyin' Ryan
Posts: 80/136
I added in the credits who was to be thanked for the graphics I used. Which if the graphics are from someone else's hack, which are just graphics from another Nintendo game, then it's not stealing from another person's hack, it's stealing from Nintendo.
PumpkinPie
Posts: 25/1158
Ripping to me seems kind of lazy, but maybe I should lighten up a bit. Some graphics out there are pretty cool...I just hate seeing the same ones used over and over again. Wait, that's what bothers me. Not the ripping...but the repition of graphics.

Hey, baby, all my gfx are handrawn (As if you couldn't tell.)
Juggling Joker
Posts: 444/1033
My philosophy concerning ripping from hack's is this:

If they use my stuff better than me, good for them. If not, what the hell am I losing?
Alastor the Stylish
Posts: 4281/7620
Originally posted by Holy Knight
Who cares if they rip graphics from different games. As long as they don't rip from someone elses hack or try to call the stuff they ripped there own design, then I don't see a problem.
Wait, what? How is stealing from a professional (ripping from a commercial game) better than stealing from an ameteur (ripping from someone's hack)?
Juggling Joker
Posts: 443/1033
Ripping, if done well, sits on about the same level as hand drawn graphics. I only draw my own graphics because I enjoy doing it.
Holy Knight
Posts: 45/107
Who cares if they rip graphics from different games. As long as they don't rip from someone elses hack or try to call the stuff they ripped there own design, then I don't see a problem.
High Flyin' Ryan
Posts: 79/136
Well, I am no artist nor do I plan to be. I basically just made this hack to see what my options were in Lunar Magic. I hate drawing, so that is definitly out of the question. So therefor I rip stuff from Super Mario All Stars, and most recently Yoshi's Island, and Super Metroid. I wouldn't consider myself a "N00B" any more, and I think you'll agree with that when Ice Man and I release our next hack together
ExKay
Posts: 422/1114
I only can agree with Knuck, because not everybody can draw his own GFX, so it's better if I rip the GFX and he makes the levels, because we are working together on his 2nd hack and he hasn't such a knowledge like some of you guyz and about Aioria, he only wants to help him and give him some tips.
I'm not a mod or admin, but please stay on the topic and don't make Aioria feels bad only why he can't speak English well!
We want to have a good time here and not fight each other, right?
knuck
Posts: 1011/1818
I don't see a problem with ripping.
Not everyone can make GFX from scratch.
It's not because you people are tired of some GFXs in SMW, that ripping is the worse thing ever.

What i think? I think he should rip and only try to make his own graphics if he really wants, not because of other people telling him to.
Aioria
Posts: 1234/1567
Ok man, no problems
Rain Man
Posts: 279/378
Okay, maybe I did over-react a bit. Sorry
Aioria
Posts: 1226/1567
what i find weird is that you guys take my posts too damn seriously Come on guys, don't take everyhting as a offense, sometimes I am just playing around.
Rain Man
Posts: 271/378
Originally posted by Kyouji Craw
Bastard doesn't mean anything anymore. It's just something that people call other people for no reason

Also, Aioria... Did you just call me a moron? That is... The single most... Gah I can't even respond to that.


Dont let it get to you Kyouji, he just cant admit he is wrong so he comes up with some lame exuse
KATW
Posts: 2325/3959
Originally posted by Aioria
They are morons lol
You couldnt think of anything better than moron?

Personally... your hack isnt all that special. Nothing really stands out and says "HI IM UNIQUE THAT MAKES THIS HACK UNIQUE AND COOL AND DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE OTHER HACKS OUT THERE!" Its just... run of the mill
Alastor the Stylish
Posts: 4239/7620
Bastard doesn't mean anything anymore. It's just something that people call other people for no reason

Also, Aioria... Did you just call me a moron? That is... The single most... Gah I can't even respond to that.
Aioria
Posts: 1221/1567
Originally posted by High Flyin' Ryan
No need to call Aioria a bastard, he's just being helpful


Hah, thanks Ryan. They are morons lol
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