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knuck
Posts: 122/1818 |
Originally posted by Coby
The ExGFX workshop is there for people who don't know how to make ExGFX.
A good hack doesn't require self made ExGFX.
Quoted for emphasis 
Originally posted by knuck
Now all the newbie hackers are going to use the ExGFX from the workshop, and won't bother learn to do their own GFX.
people who don't know how to make ExGFX - newbies. |
Juggling Joker
Posts: 45/1033 |
Directed to all you ExGFX naysayers, just plain gameplay isn't going to count it anymore. If someone downloading a hack has to choose between a hack with good gameplay or a hack with good gameplay AND new graphics, guess which one they are going to choose. And most ExGFX isn't overused to the point that most SMAS stuff is. Especially the donated hand-made stuff that I've yet to even see in a hack yet.
And I can't think of any ExGFX that I would consider "shit." Examples would be nice next time you say something like that, Blisseh. |
Aioria
Posts: 68/1567 |
skateboarder11: Hack looks great!
thanks mate
and about the exgfx stuff, i still dont know how to rip, create bin etc  
so i'm using the workshop and creating lots of new graffics using the original smw tiles, and the great majority look like hand drawn gfx, although it is just some map8x8-->map16x16 tile transformation, palete editing, etc 
anyway, you can do some really nice graffics using smw tiles and editing them. i made some cute face blocks editing the brown blocks 
Coby: The ExGFX workshop is there for people who don't know how to make ExGFX.
A good hack doesn't require self made ExGFX.
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agree, alhtough the graffic part is very important, you can do beautiful and nice lookin' levels putting tiles in many original ways and creating your own |
Darth Coby
Posts: 243/1371 |
Originally posted by knuck
Originally posted by Kyouji "Kagami" Craw
Oh, pfeh. 90% of all ExGFX is shit and you know it.
Originally posted by gnkkwinrrul
Notice I said some, not a lot. I know most of it is bad.
ExGFX isn't shit if it was YOU that made it. But if you downloaded somewhere (ie. ExGFX workshop), it will be shit. No, i'm not saying "OMG EXGFX WORKSHOP IS TEH SUXXOR OMG", no way. All the GFX are well done there, but it's just stupid to do something like this. Now all the newbie hackers are going to use the ExGFX from the workshop, and won't bother learn to do their own GFX.
The ExGFX workshop is there for people who don't know how to make ExGFX.
A good hack doesn't require self made ExGFX. |
Geno
Posts: 160/206 |
Very nice screenshots, though the spectral room's shot doesn't show too much detail and variance. That's probably because it's taken in a repetitive place, then.
I'll give my two cents on ripping:
I completely agree. Some people will rip from various games, mainly SMAS, just for it to look good and "be an original retro thingy". If they do a worse job making original graphics, I don't care. I'd still prefer that. Atma is different. He rips from various games, configures it a lot for detail, and sometimes puts fitting rips together. The fact that he's not relying on ripping makes his hack original. Well, he draws better than most game companies anyway... DWTLC squished some awesome (I must admit to that) SMAS rips together by SMB3 tilesets, and that made it SMAS-ish, but at least correctly SMAS-ish. If someone ripped a SMB2 mushroom, a SMB1 pipe, and a SMB3 ice block, it would be called mixing, which is even better than ripping as long as the stuff fits. If it doesn't, it's called mismatching. The completely original hacks, Sunny Side World, Super Mario Odyssey, and Just Another Mario Hack, display a truly awesome creativity level, and SS had some odd rips that are becoming to be popular. Sure, the GFX might be more simplistic, but it doesn't add to the way we get tired of the same rip over and over. So don't think about your hack, think about your hack's players. |
Xkeeper 2.0
Posts: 15/1091 |
Originally posted by cpubasic13
Originally posted by knuck
ExGFX isn't shit if it was YOU that made it. But if you downloaded somewhere (ie. ExGFX workshop), it will be shit. No, i'm not saying "OMG EXGFX WORKSHOP IS TEH SUXXOR OMG", no way. All the GFX are well done there, but it's just stupid to do something like this. Now all the newbie hackers are going to use the ExGFX from the workshop, and won't bother learn to do their own GFX.
I would use some of the ExGFX from the Workshop, but if you use only the ExGFX Workshop, then you won't have a very original hack.
If you can edit the graphics, then by all means go ahead. If you can't, then try some of the ExGFX workshop stuff.
Even though my graphics suck anyway...
I mostly use rips, but I make sure they are accurate to the original game. (And NO, it is NOT all SMAS )
Aioria: Hack looks great! |
cpubasic13
Posts: 60/1346 |
Originally posted by knuck
ExGFX isn't shit if it was YOU that made it. But if you downloaded somewhere (ie. ExGFX workshop), it will be shit. No, i'm not saying "OMG EXGFX WORKSHOP IS TEH SUXXOR OMG", no way. All the GFX are well done there, but it's just stupid to do something like this. Now all the newbie hackers are going to use the ExGFX from the workshop, and won't bother learn to do their own GFX.
I would use some of the ExGFX from the Workshop, but if you use only the ExGFX Workshop, then you won't have a very original hack.
If you can edit the graphics, then by all means go ahead. If you can't, then try some of the ExGFX workshop stuff.
Even though my graphics suck anyway... |
knuck
Posts: 115/1818 |
Originally posted by Kyouji "Kagami" Craw
Oh, pfeh. 90% of all ExGFX is shit and you know it.
Originally posted by gnkkwinrrul
Notice I said some, not a lot. I know most of it is bad.
ExGFX isn't shit if it was YOU that made it. But if you downloaded somewhere (ie. ExGFX workshop), it will be shit. No, i'm not saying "OMG EXGFX WORKSHOP IS TEH SUXXOR OMG", no way. All the GFX are well done there, but it's just stupid to do something like this. Now all the newbie hackers are going to use the ExGFX from the workshop, and won't bother learn to do their own GFX. |
Darth Coby
Posts: 186/1371 |
The title screen looks a bit plain but I really like the overworld. |
gnkkwinrrul
Posts: 205/647 |
Notice I said some, not a lot. I know most of it is bad. |
Alastor the Stylish
Posts: 194/7620 |
Oh, pfeh. 90% of all ExGFX is shit and you know it. |
gnkkwinrrul
Posts: 197/647 |
Looking good! Try adding some ExGfx, and It'll be even better |
Aioria
Posts: 65/1567 |
thanks guys
Kirby All The Way:does it take place in a "Warp Zone" Type place?
actually not for now im not planning to use that level as a normal level in SMW, but in the Star Palace (it is located in the world 9) there'll be an area similar to that, but i'm thinking on making a maza that leads to the mysterious room
Lemon Kirby: why is it named "The Spectral Room"?
this room will be the main secret of the game, i'm composing the storyline but havent finished it yet. It will in the 'read me' together w/ the exgfx credits and the other stuff
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Smallhacker
Posts: 46/2273 |
Those shots looks interesting! Nice work! |
Juggling Joker
Posts: 41/1033 |
That is a damn fine looking overworld. I'm looking forward to seeing it in action. |
Orange Pastry
Posts: 85/168 |
No bad! Now I need to fix my overworld, it looks like crap to this. |
cpubasic13
Posts: 49/1346 |
Wow! That is cool. I like the overworld. I so far have only altered the overworld on my MFL hack. Title screen is cool also. |
Lemon Luigi
Posts: 49/356 |
Looking good! The beginning part is pretty innovative, but why is it named "The Spectral Room"? |
KATW
Posts: 236/3959 |
Looks good.... does it take place in a "Warp Zone" Type place? |
Aioria
Posts: 61/1567 |
Originally posted by knuck
*images removed*
Remember to put "http://" on the image link .
thanks, i fixed that now
-edit by weasel-
It's unnecessary to quote images like that. We've already seen them |
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