Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - General Gaming - Do You Cheat?
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cpubasic13
Posts: 804/1346 |
The first game I cheated on was Sonic for the Genesis. Then again, it was just for debug mode. I enjoyed just placing down the enemies wherever I want and stuff.
I cheat, yes. Only when I am playing around. Let me explain.
I will have a few saves, one being my first save and it will not have any cheats whatsoever. Another will have no cheats, but will focus on almost every little tid bit of the game. Another will have cheats, which I use to have some fun.
I will refer to GTA for this. I had a serious save. It would be no cheating and go through the missions as planned. Yet, when I just want to go around and steal cars and run into the cops and watch people fight each other, then I load the save and activate the cheats. I do not save, however. I just enjoy the cheats.
Some games, though, are ruined by cheating. I can tell you that Viewtiful Joe is one tough game to beat, but I would never cheat on it. It is a perfect game (not to mention the sequel is, too) and if tampered with could possibly not be fun anymore.
As for FAQs, I rarely use them. I use them for when I am supremly stumped on a game. Right now I am stumped on Viewtiful Joe 2. I will possibly use a FAQ to get past this one area and that will be it. Otherwise, I will figure it out myself...
In conclusion, cheating can be good or bad. It just depends on the situation. |
Tarale
Posts: 1055/2720 |
Oh, and I forgot -- I also read bits of walkthroughs to Ben when he plays games like Silent Hill.... he doesn't have much time to play games, so he finds it helpful if I can walk him through all the weird puzzles so he can get back to killing monsters. 
Plus, it's the closest I'll get to playing those games, they scare me. I'm quite happy to sit there with a laptop on my lap and tell him how to solve the puzzle. |
Colin
Posts: 5880/11302 |
I think once you beat the game you're totally entitled to check FAQ's if you forget what to do, sure. 
Tesla DOGS.  Ai yi yi. If I want to have fun, I usually just load up a soccer game and totally change the stats of a team around then walk over everyone with them. |
Tarale
Posts: 1052/2720 |
When I was a child, in the late eighties and the early nineties, I used to use cheat and debug codes in games that I was too clumsy (or scared of otherwise, like Wolfenstein) to play without any help.
Now, I don't cheat.... I do tend to reference walkthroughs if I'm really stuck (I've had to do that with Kingdom Hearts recently, which I've already played through once, but I got to a section where I just couldn't remember for the life of me what I was supposed to do....).
I also reference walkthroughs with games that I *just want to get through, dammit* (ie, I'm not enjoying the game, but I feel compelled to finish it)
I would never cheat in a multiplayer game.
I have been known to edit/screw around with games. But that wasn't for cheating purposes, that was for personal amusement. Like when I created Tesla Dogs in Red Alert 2, just so I could have dogs running around that zap things. *woof -- zzzap!* *insane giggles*  They were fun, but quite powerful.... so I take that modification off if I want to play a proper game, otherwise the challenge is diminished (and thefore the fun). |
oniblade
Posts: 150/183 |
usually the first thing that i do when i get a new game is look to see if there are any cheat codes online, just because i get bored with dying and running out of ammo all the time...
like with the GTA double pack for xbox, the second thing i did after buying them, was go online for cheat codes, and now im happy i did
its sad, but i learned how to pull off drive bys with the xbox controller yesterday(got them on sunday) i didnt know that you could do that in either versions of the games(ps2 or xbox)
and the gattling gun in GTA VC kicks ass! So does the chainsaw and the hunting knife... |
Grey the Stampede
Posts: 1537/3770 |
Originally posted by Zem
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Codes that make fun disco-like textures or other such things are also great.
That reminds me, the Turok 1 cheats were massive fun. Like disco mode and the weird horrible ugly ones that altered the looks of everything.
Those weren't cheat codes, Zem.  |
Ringodoggie
Posts: 151/281 |
I only use cheats if I have completed the game without cheats. |
Ran-chan
Posts: 6235/12781 |
Well, at SOME games which were boring at the beginning I cheated through. But games like THPS were fun and I didn |
me99909
Posts: 174/296 |
I used to have Turok and I never cheated, until I beat the thing. Then I like to have fun cheating and killing everthing, just like in all the games I play. I used to cheat all the time, but I ruined a few games, they just got boring, so I stopped that. Also, never cheat in multiplayer... Ever... Gotta hate Diablo 2 open battle.net for that. Just no fun at all. |
alte Hexe
Posts: 2106/5458 |
Turok without codes was a boring game that really blew. Turok with all the codes on and able to skip to the only good part in the game, the boss battles, ruled. Same thing as Turok 3, where you could skip to cut scenes so you could get the story and ignore everything but boss fights and multiplayer. |
Colin
Posts: 5808/11302 |
I think the sheer number of insane codes in the Turok games was what made them worth a play or two.
I think one of the games had some sort of wireframe cheat which looked pretty innovative. |
Zem
Posts: 492/1107 |
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Codes that make fun disco-like textures or other such things are also great.
That reminds me, the Turok 1 cheats were massive fun. Like disco mode and the weird horrible ugly ones that altered the looks of everything. |
Colin
Posts: 5782/11302 |
I love using enhancement devices to screw around with games (SMB was an EXTREMELY fun example of how to totally mess up a game) but personally, I'll only start using the other codes to have fun after I beat the game. It's just my nature.
So to clarify - my philosophy is to beat the game first, then cheat. |
Rydain
Posts: 356/738 |
I'm with X-mas and Cheveyo Chowilawu. As long as you're not ruining a multiplayer game for other people or lying about your accomplishments, I don't see what the damn big deal is. Currently, gaming is not a major part of my life. I like to play games, but I don't give a shit about being the best or finding every last thing by myself. I enjoy figuring things out, but if I'm stuck or about to die or just plain annoyed beyond my frustration threshold, I'll go look up a FAQ for some help. I play games to have fun. If you don't feel right getting outside help with a game, that's fine, but some of us have different priorities. As an analogy, I also cosplay for fun. Making my own outfits and props is, to me, an essential aspect of the experience. Significant quantities of my time and disposable income are allocated toward crafting and sewing. Some people just want to dress up at a con, and they don't have the time, ability, or knowhow to make something and don't particularly care. Thus, they commission it. Are they cheating? (Not unless they claim that they made the item in question, but that's fraud in and of itself.)
Originally posted by Anya
Now, all the Gamesharks and so forth, now I see that as cheating. I actually don't feel like selling things like that, especially to kids. What is that teaching them, huh?
That games can be played in ways other than the developers intended? Furthermore, as was already mentioned, Gamesharks et al. have purposes other than making a game easier (glitching, increasing difficulty), so it doesn't make sense to see them as completely Bad, Umkay. |
HyperLamer
Posts: 2650/8210 |
Online cheating is simply the worst video game-related thing ever. Everyone who does it needs to be impaled on stuff. 
Originally posted by X-mas
It's fun. It's great. There's nothing as fun as slapping on 50% speed and getting a gigantic combo on that one wierd game Hiryuu gave me (it's a puzzle, similar to Columns)
There's nothing like plugging in a GS and suddenly being able to walk through walls. Why? You never know what's behind one. Could there be a giant boss that wasn't supposed to be there, but you glitched in? An empty room left from debugging days? Hidden crap?
Wiping out a boss in one hit with the SuperDuperUltraMegaAttack of DOOOOOOOOOM is fun. I love it.
Sure, all very fun, but using it to beat the game for the first time just ruins it. There's no challenge to it.
I love having infinite ammo for a rocket launcher and blasting shit to bits. I love having infinite HP so I can run into deadly stuff and walk through enemies.
Yes, sometimes cheating does enhance the game. There are 3 times that I will cheat when I haven't beat the game:
-Really boring/hard game/level, or just one particular aspect of the game that sucks. (I often use infinite ammo in shooters myself. Blasting everything with machine guns is much more fun than kicking things and looking for bullets.)
-When a save file gets wiped out, I usually use cheats to get back to where it was as best as possible. Then I play normally after that.
-Horribly cheap AI, like in Mario Party.
FAQs and guides are like candy. Stuck? Just read one! Instant fun.
Yes, I always refer to a guide if I'm stuck and just can not figure it out. I don't, however, sit there reading the guide and doing exactly what it says the whole time, nor do I refer to them for every little thing. (Ono a gap too big to jump over, help me GameFAQs!)
Plus, who said cheats make games easier? What about hardmode cheats? Cheats that fuck up the game so bad as it becomes halariously unplayable (ala GOTOIO, SMB1)? Those bad too?
Yes, those are quite fun, and I often use them. For example, I always use the GS codes for Super Speed Mode in Mario 64 (makes the entire game run faster). Codes that make fun disco-like textures or other such things are also great. I love to play Mario Kart 64 with every character's max speed pumped up to 120, it's more fun and harder since the AI actually goes fast (especially if I also use the 'harder AI' code, which makes them all act like that one who just will not get off your ass). Making the characters really light is fun too, despite the fact that it makes the game practically impossible to play. I don't consider these cheat codes so much as enhancement codes. (Also, GOTOIO? You mistake your GG for a BASIC compiler? )
One other thing I should mention is that I don't consider built-in cheats to be as bad as AR/GS cheats, because the programmers intended for you to be able to do it. They let you win easier but there's still restrictions, like the fact that they get to choose what cheats you can actually use. As opposed to with a GS where you just reprogram the game and can do whatever you want, that's major cheating. |
Alastor the Stylish
Posts: 3914/7620 |
Originally posted by Mr. F-Zero
An AR is an Action Replay, like a gameshark.
I bought an AR the other day, but i will only use it for F-Zero GX, since there are certain machine parts in that game that were only available to Japanese versions of the game and the American NTSC and PAL versions didnt get them. Considering their great advantage, I HAD to have them. But other than that, my AR wont be used.
I was gonna do that too, but my AR kept saying the codes were for the wrong game. (They weren't btw.) What crap :x |
Mr. F-Zero
Posts: 82/158 |
An AR is an Action Replay, like a gameshark.
I bought an AR the other day, but i will only use it for F-Zero GX, since there are certain machine parts in that game that were only available to Japanese versions of the game and the American NTSC and PAL versions didnt get them. Considering their great advantage, I HAD to have them. But other than that, my AR wont be used.
Though i really dont care if people cheat or not. My dad always used to get frustrated with PGR, so he used cheats and he felt better playing it, since before he simply couldn't finish it. Thats a good case where cheats are good (since if you don't have enough skill to complete the game in question, then cheats can show you the things you would otherwise have missed). |
Gywall
Posts: 284/356 |
I cheat for any of the following:
* Game is waaaay too hard.
* Add spice to the game. (try 50% gravity in Super mario Sunshine and corona mountain.. That's very tricky.
* restore lost save data due to fault save. (as in pokemon silver.. I lost tons of stuff.. But i got the save back with half a dozen cheat codes.. And a lv 59 feraligater vs first gym.. heh.)
* Bordom and doing craaazy stuff. |
Tamarin Calanis
Posts: 226/1802 |
Another interesting Hard Mode cheat - the one in FFT. All enemies have ALL classes mastered. Wizards that cast a pathetic Fire spell? No more! Watch in horror as they Flare your characters to death, thanks to their Half MP support ability! And remember when the biggest threat from a summoner was Titan? No more - they'll now summon Bahamut or even Zodiac!
Yeah. Too bad I don't have a Gameshark. 
And Xk (X-Mas), your view on cheating sounds much like mine - if it makes the game more fun, go right ahead. |
ghillie
Posts: 25/26 |
Originally posted by Xeogred
Originally posted by ghillie
Well, in games like GTA, it enhances the game a ton if you use cheats... but only if you're playing with friends. It sorta ruins the game if you use them to beat it...
I love how Rockstar made it so that if you cheat, you can't get 100%
I'd seriously love to see someone get 100% completion on San Andres ... heck, Vice City.
Yeah XD
Not like I've ever done it (or tried), but there are people out there who've done it... 
I'd say its a waste, but its their life. |
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