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Golden Yoshi
Posts: 340/693
Originally posted by Skiffles
meh, you're all bashing him because he's using something that's not supposed to be in the game.

since when does hacking mean you can only use what the game used, hacking is supposed to be ALL ABOUT putting in whats not in, trying new stuff. fucking idiots.


Of course it's great to put in new stuff in a hack, but there are so many options besides inserting things that are buggy/glitchy. And we're only trying to offer him some advice, no need to insult people.
Ice Ranger
Posts: 49/183
Maybe if you figured out a way to have an exception for the seed spitting sprite to not be glitched, it might be alright.

Still, I wouldn't prefer it.
Setzer
Posts: 105/532
meh, you're all bashing him because he's using something that's not supposed to be in the game.

since when does hacking mean you can only use what the game used, hacking is supposed to be ALL ABOUT putting in whats not in, trying new stuff. fucking idiots.
Peardian
Posts: 198/1696
Oh! I forgot. The demo also includes what I have so far of 8-2.
Golden Yoshi
Posts: 339/693
Good, I'm really glad you finally took the advice of others and made a change. Don't feel too bad that you had to get rid of Gronky, it was buggy/glitchy/etc to begin with and didn't work properly, so it's not as if you're getting rid of something totally awesome.
Peardian
Posts: 196/1696
I would fix him, but I'm pretty sure that there are no enemies on the Seed Spit sprite set. I don't even know which one that is... Well, I guess Gronky will be removed. Bye, Gronky!

"Gronky.bug" termination................100%
Bugged hut removal...........................50%
Level bug removal............................100%
Bugged items accesibility.................100%
Degronkifying demo..........................100%
Demo release....................................100%
Gronky evidence destruction.............92%
1/4......................................................25%

Here is the Gronky-free demo:
http://peardian.tripod.com/YIWT_Demo_w1.2.ips

Remaining Gronky Evidence:
1. This poll
Imajin
Posts: 399/452
I would say that you should keep "Gronky", but try to fix he glitch.. Unfortunately, I don't know much about Yoshi's Island, but there might be some sort of table that shows how to arrange the graphics of a charcter.. I'm not sure if there are any graphics that would work on all levels though.
Golden Yoshi
Posts: 338/693
Regardless of whatever the hell it is; a bug, a glitch, or a programming error, it is still something that is improperly used in the levels and is not used in the correct sprite set, thus resulting in an awkward display of graphics. Hence, Gronky = bye bye, unless he can find the correct sprite set. Even with the right set it still isn't meant for outside the mini game.
HyperLamer
Posts: 2711/8210
I always thought of glitches as one-time bugs. Like that one time the game crashed for no apparent reason, but never again in the same situation.

And as long as we're being technical (and off-topic), it's not a programming error, it's just an improper use of resources. He didn't change the programming.
Juggling Joker
Posts: 435/1033
Glitches are unexpected results of an electrical surge or other physical mishaps. Bugs are programming errors. This is clearly a programming error.
Chris
Posts: 163/922
Its a glinch and a bug? Makes sense?
Kario
Posts: 1011/2082
I thought a glitch was a bug.
Juggling Joker
Posts: 434/1033
If we want to get technical, it's not a glitch at all. It's a bug.
Golden Yoshi
Posts: 337/693
Originally posted by Peardian
That's not a glitch, just the wrong tileset (the front of his head is Clawdaddy's leg). I've gotten Goombas to look worse than Gronky. The name Gronky came from Planet Zebeth from Kabutroid.com. Well, it it's what you all want, I'll get rid of Gronky, but good luck getting 100%...


Why do you keep saying it's not a glitch? It may be the wrong tileset, but the graphics are completely warbled and do not fit together at all. Plus, this sprite really isn't meant to be used outside the mini-game, and it doesn't even have ideal properties to be properly functional in normal levels. So with all that, I think it's safe to say that your so-called "Gronky" character is somehow related to the glitch family. As for the level being difficult without it, just make that part of the level easier, since a lot of the hack is pretty difficult already.
Kario
Posts: 1010/2082
I get it. He makes a hack that requires Gronky in some stages. Then he asks us if we want Gronky. He is trying to make us think the same as him. I honestly think "Gronky" is too glitchy to use. If you fix the gfx, then fine. Go ahead, say it isn't glitchy. I am still gonna call it glitchy.
Chris
Posts: 160/922
Originally posted by Peardian
That's not a glitch, just the wrong tileset (the front of his head is Clawdaddy's leg). I've gotten Goombas to look worse than Gronky. The name Gronky came from Planet Zebeth from Kabutroid.com. Well, it it's what you all want, I'll get rid of Gronky, but good luck getting 100%...
We do like Gronky, its just the glinches thats all. It would look good if you could get them fixed. But,it isnt good to have a glinch like that in your hack.
HyperLamer
Posts: 2702/8210
You don't mean you're going to leave the parts where he's required do you? Because that'd be really stupid. It's not a bad idea if you can get the glitches fixed, but requiring it isn't good either.
Peardian
Posts: 194/1696
That's not a glitch, just the wrong tileset (the front of his head is Clawdaddy's leg). I've gotten Goombas to look worse than Gronky. The name Gronky came from Planet Zebeth from Kabutroid.com. Well, it it's what you all want, I'll get rid of Gronky, but good luck getting 100%...
Chris
Posts: 149/922
I never played your hack before or anything. But from the looks for that screen that GD just posted, it seems to look odd.

So I think that you should get rid of it.
Golden Yoshi
Posts: 336/693
Originally posted by Peardian
He's not really a glitch, but I like to pretend he is. Besides, it adds 2 player gameplay.



Really, not a glitch?



That little warbled ugly thing at the bottom looks like a glitch to me. Even if you wanted to add 2 player gameplay, you should avoid any glitch at all costs, especially one as obvious and inevitable as that one. You haven't gotten anyone to say yes in keeping Gronky, you've got 5 people to say to get rid of it, so you should start taking suggestions, especially when you're the one asking for them, starting with getting rid of that glitch, and a whole bunch of other things. Merry Christmas!
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