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CoughSyrupAbuser
Posts: 5/23 |
We used to have another Jew, Bomburski. But he is long gone.
Ummm, sorry to sound like a relatively stupid Eastern-rite Catholic...But what is Ebionite and Karaite?
Karaite Judiasm is an old sect that is relatively small these days. They reject the writings of the Talmud and Mishnah as inspired and accept only the Tanakh (or Old Testament).
They also rely on a different calender than Rabbincal Judiasm. It is based solely on the Lunar Cycle and observation of the crops in Palestine.
Ebionite Judaism is even older, dating back at least to the second century and many believe to the first. They were Jews who while remaining "Zealous for the Torah" (Acts 21:10) They accepted Jesus Christ (or as they called him Yeshu) as the Messiah but rejected the fact that he was God incarnate. They rejected the "Lord's Day" or Sunday Observance, Easter, etc. in favor of the Sabbath, Passover, and other Judaic festivals.
Many of the early Church Fathers attacked them as Heretics and thus theie numbers dropped and no mention of them appears after the fifthe century.
alte Hexe
Posts: 3263/5458 |
Originally posted by CoughSyrupAbuser
Holy shit! I'm the first the Jew on the board I guess.... 
I enjoy studying the beliefs of many cultures, religions, and scriptures.
I would probaly identify closest with Ebionite Judaism and Karaite Judaism.
Religion is a facinating topic!
We used to have another Jew, Bomburski. But he is long gone.
Ummm, sorry to sound like a relatively stupid Eastern-rite Catholic...But what is Ebionite and Karaite? |
CoughSyrupAbuser
Posts: 3/23 |
Holy shit! I'm the first the Jew on the board I guess....
I enjoy studying the beliefs of many cultures, religions, and scriptures.
I would probaly identify closest with Ebionite Judaism and Karaite Judaism.
Religion is a facinating topic! |
BlackDays
Posts: 60/77 |
Back to the religious subject, I choose not to participate in any religion, but I do not deny the possibility of the existence in a God. I also do not associate myself with Agnostics, because honestly, I don't give a damn one way or the other. I don't lead a bad life, I try to lead the best life I can, but I'm not modeling myself after Jesus nor am I afraid of a hell. The closest thing I could relate myself to is Buddhist, but not so... Buddhist. :-P |
alte Hexe
Posts: 3118/5458 |
Problem is geogree, most STDs can be passed from mother to child. And even more of them can be given to rare causation without sexual contact. |
MathOnNapkins
Posts: 1512/2189 |
Well sadly enough, to me the only effective way to get rid of something like AIDS is to do widespread quarantine. The public doesn't seem scared enough of the disease for them to just stop having all kinds of sex. But quarantining will never happen b/c of civil rights and all that jazz.  |
geeogree
Posts: 319/448 |
well, of course it won't.... not unless people actually are abstinant....
most people have sex before they are married.... and most have at least 2 partners.... usually more...
now, if everyone had one partner.... only.... STD's would go away.... for the most part.... in a generation or 2.... at least it makes sense that it would |
alte Hexe
Posts: 3116/5458 |
Studies show, abstinance doesn't slow sexually transmitted disease! |
geeogree
Posts: 316/448 |
well, at least someone is....
that one thing (no sex before marriage) would basically eliminate sexually transmitted diseases in a generation or two....
but.... sex is too much fun right?  |
Nebetsu
Posts: 1113/1574 |
I'm a Christian. Really into parts of it. Especially things that other people dont agree with, like creationism and not having sex before marriage. |
alte Hexe
Posts: 3101/5458 |
Heron.
Believe it or not many old Pagan faiths believed only in Hell. The Maya, Inca and Aztec's gods were particularly harsh. The old Greeeks believed only in Hades. The Romans did have Elysium, but that was only for soldiers. In fact, Heavens are a most recent introduction into most neo-Pagan faiths. For a lot of the time, they didn't have them until meeting with Christianity.
And "reason" is just a false God to determine if passions are unjustified  One can never allow reason to overthrow their heart when it comes to dealing with the paranormal. Reason is for interactions between men, not between men and their fatih. |
Kario
Posts: 1319/2082 |
Yeah, just because people say they beleive in God doesnt mean they believe in the same God. Here is an example. Lets say I believe in a God that saves people and can not take away that salvation, but Randy believes in a God that can take away a persons salvation. Obviously, they are different Gods. |
Heron Ctesibius
Posts: 3/3 |
That's not an easy question. I consider myself to be agnostic, but I believe that if God ever existed I'd agree with the dieists. In other words, while I don't believe there is a God, I haven't completely elimated the possibility. Also if God ever existed I believe that he was more of creator, not a maintainer (I say you he dead). This country was founded by people who were rationalists and deists. I believe that what they believed was about the most rational answer of the time, but now, with our greater understanding the most likely answer is that their never was a god or gods as any current religion believes.
This was a very interesting quote that I found. It says most of what I believe, that religion can be good, but the good that comes from religion is not exclusive to religion. People can use reason to determine what's right and wrong. They don't need to be preached or written down. I guessing the reason so many people said other is that they don't know what to believe. They have trouble believing something so fanciful as is preached by any current religion.
"Now, I don't believe that God exists. I think that God is creation of men, by men, and for men. What has happened over the many centuries now, the better part of two thousand in fact, is that God has been slowly and steadily accruing power. His church has been accruing power, and the men who run that church, and they are all men, are not about to give it up. If they give it up, they give up luxury, they give up comfort. I'm not saying that it's true of all of them, some of them are working leper colonies and doing extraordinary works in the name of that God. That's a paradox which we probably shouldn't be discussing now, but I'm aware of that. But I'm also aware that there are a lot of very powerful, corrupt men enjoying the power that this tradition, patriarchal tradition, has confered upon them."
-Clive Barker
Another interesting thing that I was considering was the concept of hell. Every major religion has some kind of concept of hell or something to dissuade people from killing themselves or to act in the best way possible. In other words, don't overthrow the monarchy. There is one belief that I found hilarious, that of the Phoenicans. They only believed in a hell. Guess you wouldn't want to do anything to get yourself killed if all that waited was eternal damnation.
I'm always interested in hearing why people believe what they believe. I hate to hear, "It's because that what I was raised as." USE REASON TO DETERMINE IF THAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU. |
Ramadan Roy
Posts: 545/816 |
Originally posted by Ziffski
Allah was the ancient pagan moon God...Until the Arabs realized that there was only one God, and realized that Allah, as the most powerful of their polytheistic Gods was his effective embodiment in their pantheon. Mohammad during his flight with the dog to Jerusalem really learned alot.
Just to clarify, so people don't get confused, I think what you mean to say is that "Allah" was the name of the central God in Arab Pagan religions. Not that the belief of Allah(SWT) in Islam evolved from "Allah" of Pagan religions. Allah merely means "God" in Arabic. |
BookReader
Posts: 207/232 |
Well, looks like I |
alte Hexe
Posts: 3024/5458 |
Jehovah and Allah are two fundamentally different gods. If you want to put into historical contexts. Jehova (Yahweh) was an ancient diety of sky and war, as previously mentioned. He was the Father God of the ancient Canninites. The Jews adopted him as their Lord and made him into a dualthestic faith where Shadisha was worshipped as a mother goddess. Eventually, realizing the innity of pluralistic worship, Shadisha was relegated to the Choirs of Angels. The Christian God is the same as the God of the Jews.
Allah was the ancient pagan moon God...Until the Arabs realized that there was only one God, and realized that Allah, as the most powerful of their polytheistic Gods was his effective embodiment in their pantheon. Mohammad during his flight with the dog to Jerusalem really learned alot.
We also have to factor in the fact that Hinduism/Buddhism are technically monotheistic as all are under Bhrama. The force of creation and existense. All Gods and all beings are extensions of the One Creator. Think of the other gods as prophets and angels, if you want to go that root. There is also Zorastrianism we worships a singular diety.
Of course, this is solely from the local library.
Yeah the major difference between Islam and Christianity and Judaism is the treatment of the Christ. There are lots of Moslems who have different ideas about it. The Jews never have, and probably never will as a whole, acknowledge him as a prophet. The Christians...Yeah  We love our Lord and Saviour and God on Earth. |
BookReader
Posts: 206/232 |
Originally posted by Randy53215
Originally posted by BookReader
@ Vystrix Nexoth: The Muslim, Jewish, and Christian God are the same guy: A sky god named Yahweh. Since it is blaspheme to speak his name they call him God or Allah or something similar. I don
Sandy53215
Posts: 334/948 |
Originally posted by BookReader
@ Vystrix Nexoth: The Muslim, Jewish, and Christian God are the same guy: A sky god named Yahweh. Since it is blaspheme to speak his name they call him God or Allah or something similar. I don
Ramadan Roy
Posts: 544/816 |
Originally posted by Ziffski
I believe in Allah. Only fundamentalist dick wads make a direct distinction between the father, the son and the holy ghost and the lord of the moslems.
Well, as a Muslim, I would like to say that concerning Jesus or Isa(Peace be upon him) and God(SWT), we are different from the other two major monotheistic religions. First off, we believe that Jesus'(Peace be upon him) soul was taken from his body by God because he didn't want him to suffer. And at the day of judgment, Jesus(Peace be upon him) will return. Now, about God or Allah(SWT); we believe that he is a power; one that does not take any humanoid shape and cannot be compared to one in terms of emotions or other humanistic elements. And I am sure you all know that Muslims like myself don't consider him to have any family as well; and we don't believe in the Holy Trinity as well. |
alte Hexe
Posts: 3022/5458 |
...Buddhism has its own version of the Christ master. |
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