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Tamarin Calanis
Posts: 185/1802
If there are two versions that are equal, I'd go with whichever one has a smaller filesize. It's a leftover habit from the days of Dialup.

Though I'd much rather see editors that work regardless of your OS... even though I along with most people use Windows, there are those who do not. And they shouldn't be left out.

And yeah, DOS is dead. Or rather, it should be. Like a zombie, I suppose - not entirely dead, but it should be.
HyperLamer
Posts: 2304/8210
I'll use DOS editors but if a Windoze version is available and doesn't suck horribly, I'll take it any day. And FORGET Java.
Sokarhacd
Posts: 854/1757
I voted for windows..but thats just because I prefer it...but really, as long as it works, its fine...doesnt really matter which.
MathOnNapkins
Posts: 1100/2189
If you program a Java GUI properly it isn't that slow. One thing I haven't been able to figure out with Java is how to allocate more memory. The environment I used only allowed like 10MB of memory for program variables. Then again, for an editor you shouldn't need that much. What I was making was a tracer/disassembler with memory states being saved and swapped = lots of stuff. Dan: I think Swing is on the way out. I'll look into that.

That being said, I really prefer that an editor be released on whatever platform I'm using. I'm not going to go out and buy a Mac just to use an editor. Luckily I have access to Macs in many campus computer labs. As well as Unix machines.
Darkmatt
Posts: 165/212
As long as it works, I'm fine.

Yep. That's me!
Dish
Posts: 209/596

Whatever happened to, say, three years ago when it was mainly DOS editors? XD


Thank God that's over. There shouldnt've been that many DOS editors 3 years ago... it actually kind of got on my nerves that there was. Nobody runs DOS anymore*. It's archaic and stupid. It should have disappeared long ago. Thankfully now people are finally stopping to develop... 10 years after DOS's hey-day.

Not suprising that Windows is dominant here... since the only other OS listed was DOS -- and not MacOS or Linux (Polls never do provide the right options... which is why I think the feature is rather stupid... but that's another issue )

Ideally, platform independance is what you want to go for. Java is great for this... despite being a bit... sluggish. I'm not a fan of C# because it doesn't really serve a purpose -- I mean Java already does the platform independant high level thing.. and does it quite well. C# is MS's way of saying "hey we can do that too"... only it's years behind. Java has had time to get a big supportive base, optimized and quick executables, and wide support. C# is still relatively new to the table... and doesn't really bring anything new to the table (but of course, MS will muscle it in to the market anyway).

I'm a fan of good old fashioned C/C++. There's some libraries to achive platform independance, but they're typically harder to use than the native API (which I why I never really got into them for editor development). People using C/C++ and other lower languages will just likely code for whatever OS they're running (which, in the rom-hacking scene, seems to be mostly Windows).

* ( Yes I know there are people that still run DOS... but not in the same manner as a modern OS -- like... they don't run DOS for their everyday work. People that typically run it do so because they have DOS programs/games they still want to use... or they haven't discovered Linux yet.... or they're clinging to some insane sense of nostolgia. )
tuna
Posts: 32/2
I'm mildly shocked at how there's 7 people who would only use Windows editors.

Whatever happened to, say, three years ago when it was mainly DOS editors? XD

[coughs]

Anyway, there's the same amount of people who don't care, so...
dan
Posts: 258/782
Java isn't as slow as you think. Sure, when you first start using a program written in Java, it can be a teensy bit slow, but that's because the program is being recompiled as you use it. For example, if you've got say, a palette editor written in Java, and you bring up a dialog, close it, then reopen the dialog, the second instance of the dialog will be much much faster. The same goes for .NET also.

Hell, I was thinking of writing my future editors in Java, and the only reason I didn't was because the whole event handling system of Swing seems ... weird to me. I may still write an editor in C# though.

Oh yeah, and in response to the thread title, beggars can't be choosers.
FloBo
Posts: 18/101
I think, Windows is the best platform to program an editor for just because it's the most used OS on private computers. In my opinion, editors for Windows, DOS and Linux are allright (Those are the OS's I am used to...^^).

If a new developed editor wasn't exclusively programmed for MacOS or something Aplle-like, I won't ever complain

Programming in Java is some kind of a bad idea. Java is horribly slow, so where's the advantage of a slow program you can use on your mobile to edit roms?! And yes! It actually isn't working in DOS^^...
Ailure
Posts: 6390/11162
WHY NOT PROGRAM EVERYTHING IN JAVA???

Then platforms really dosen't matter...

...oh wait, Java is not for DOS.

If it really have to be programmed for a spefic OS, it's gotta be Windows.
KATW
Posts: 2115/3959
Its like pencils

"If it can write, and it can erase, then why use something else?"

As long as it doesnt crash every 10 seconds, Im fine with whatever Im given to use.
Karadur
Posts: 225/1192
Since you said that the editor would work exactly the same on any OS, I'll choose the 'It doesn't matter' choice.
Keikonium
Posts: 857/-2459
Originally posted by Rebecca Daise
I voted if it works, who cares? I mean you can't be choosy about editors if you can't build them yourself.


altho I do agree with this, seeing as I can't build an editor, I much prefer windows editors.

With windows, I can use the mouse more effectively, and use other screens I may have open. I hate using keyboard commands (which I seem to find ALOT in DOS) so if I can avoid those thats great.
DarkSlaya
Posts: 2716/4249
Any os is fine. Yup that's what I'm voting for.
DahrkDaiz
Posts: 402/885
I voted if it works, who cares? I mean you can't be choosy about editors if you can't build them yourself.
tuna
Posts: 11/2
Keep in mind this does not deal with any editor that is more featured in Windows-- assume that any editor programmed for either environment is just as functional as it would be in another environment. (to prevent "but winderz editerz r betar!" type crap)

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