Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Super Mario World hacking - What’s up with these note blocks?!
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BMF98567
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Blah...if ZSNES had RAM read/write breakpoints, finding the code would be a trivial matter.  |
Alastor the Stylish
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Well. Even if that were true, there would certainly be a way to work around it... It'd just take skill. |
UnsurpassedDarkness
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That happed to me a few times when I hit a SMB3 smashable brick and a regular block (as small Mario) at the same time |
BMF98567
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Originally posted by UnsurpassedDarkness
I never noticed that block before
UnsurpassedDarkness
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I didn |
Alastor the Stylish
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What my question is is what causes the "block factory" glitch to do what it does. It doesn't seem like that could be possible if it wasn't intentional. |
Darkmatt
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Yep!
SMW's original code has limitations!
What'd you think? |
UnsurpassedDarkness
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I never noticed that block before |
BMF98567
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I'm certain the "bouncing block" sprite is causing the glitch. My guess is it scans the area above the block it was spawned from, and if a coin is there, it replaces it with a blank tile and spawns a coin sprite. Problem is, it seems to be writing block #152 (which is solid) instead of #25. It probably wouldn't be too hard to fix if I knew where the sprite's code was located... |
Juggling Joker
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The bouncing up isn't the problem, because the actual bouncing is caused by the sprite. If that was the case, it wouldn't prove anything conclusively by using a custom block. |
Atma X
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Originally posted by BMF54123
While we're on the subject of block glitches...
Has anyone else noticed that you can hit a block below a coin, and Mario will collect the coin (just like previous Mario games), but it leaves a solid, invisible block in its place? It looks like Nintendo either ran into a glitch and abandoned the idea (hitting a coin turned into a used block will still create a coin), or they never created any situations where that could happen, and thus the glitch was never noticed in play-testing. I wonder what it would take to fix that?
Well, I don't know how to fix it, but I would think that it is the coin that is causing the glitch, and not the block. To find out for sure, you should create a Custom Block (from scratch, don't rip any part of any code from another block) that bouces up a little when hit from below, and see if the glitch still happens. If it does, than it should be the Coin's programming that needs to be changed/fixed. |
UnsurpassedDarkness
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I got it to work now. I wonder why it gives you 1-ups on one side and coins on the other |
Karadur
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Originally posted by UnsurpassedDarkness
When I was playing Demo World I tried getting that to work
UnsurpassedDarkness
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Originally posted by BMF54123
Has anyone else noticed that you can hit a block below a coin, and Mario will collect the coin (just like previous Mario games), but it leaves a solid, invisible block in its place?
Those note blocks do the same thing.
When I was playing Demo World I tried getting that to work |
Karadur
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Originally posted by Kratos Aurion
Probably for the best anyway. Those patternless hanging coins don't look too good.
You don't need to worry. That was part of a level I did back before I made the choice to scrap the whole thing except for a few good levels, and start over. I've learned a few things since I started the hack with that level in it, so I wanted to start fresh  |
Alastor the Stylish
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Probably for the best anyway. Those patternless hanging coins don't look too good. |
Karadur
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I ran across something like that BMF. It's in this part of a level I was doing:
I found it odd that I could stand in the space where the Dragon Coin is after I hit the highest invisible block  I redid that space many times, hoping to fix the problem, but now I know all I have to do is remove the coin from above the highest invisible block  |
BMF98567
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While we're on the subject of block glitches...
Has anyone else noticed that you can hit a block below a coin, and Mario will collect the coin (just like previous Mario games), but it leaves a solid, invisible block in its place? It looks like Nintendo either ran into a glitch and abandoned the idea (hitting a coin turned into a used block will still create a coin), or they never created any situations where that could happen, and thus the glitch was never noticed in play-testing. I wonder what it would take to fix that? |
Alastor the Stylish
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It's basically exactly what that said for "Block Factory" combined with getting an item such as a shell or p-switch stuck in it. I may have a movie of it being done left over, I'll check when I get home. |
Karadur
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So in other words pretty much what you see in the Super Demo World title screen demo I always wondered what caused that, and now I know About what's happening with that note block, I have no idea  There's a slight chance that, going by what Kratos said, there could be an invisible-until-hit-from-below block next to the note blocks That wouldn't explain why the coins are coming out of the note block though
I tried searching for a list of SMW glitches on google, to hopefully find the reason that's happening, but the only site that really had anything to do with SMW was here.
Unfortunatley they don't explain what's happening in that screenshot there, but there's still some glitches that I didn't know about |
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