Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Hardware/Software - Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics card question
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Sokarhacd
Posts: 804/1757 |
ive looked more more, but all the ones at the futureshop here, are more expensive, and are a little worse then this one, only thing is they come with Dvd-roms, and more pci slots, and stuff, but I think after using this one for 2 years, with a 4MB video card, 196MB ram, 10GB HDD, no cd burner, no sound, etc, anything will be better then the one now...lol |
Ran-chan
Posts: 5363/12781 |
I have an AMD Athlon (I think it was something like Hurricane) 3000+, 512mb RAM, ATI Radeon 9800 PRO with 128mb of memory, etc.
That computer wasn |
Colin
Posts: 5220/11302 |
That system would probably run War3 all right and would likely be passable for less recent games... but you're better off getting a PC with a video card, even if it's not so great. You can always upgrade.
Even if the integrated video has 32/64MB of memory, it's still going to be way behind any comparable ATI/nVidia card with the same memory specs. |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 802/1757 |
I dont really plan on playing many new games anyway, and im gonna be getting another hard drive anyway...and ill most likely install linux as well...and for some reason, this $500
one is better then all the $600 ones at futureshop....and as far as I can tell, that video card isnt integrated...all the ones that are say they are...also remember, that im looking at ones that are availiable in the store where I live...most on the site arent..all the ones in my price range are Celerons anyway...and if I can, ill upgrade the celeron to anything else, if thats possible.
and trust me ANYTHING is almost better then what I use now...
anything up to 800 in futureshop has all integrated cards, except this one doesnt say if it is or not, only says what it is, and most likely, the only game ill be really playing is Morrowind...which only needs a 32mb at best.
edit:also, it doesnt say, but according to intel's info, it has to be a Celeron D, because the normal celerons, only have 400 bus, this one is 533, this is the D |
alte Hexe
Posts: 1732/5458 |
My main beef with the Celeron is that it well, yes, it sucks. No other way of putting that. It isn't even a discount card, it is like a 15 inch cock slapping you in the face, yup, that's the Celeron for you.
But that is a MEGA budget PC. If you plan on doing anything more than relatively basic gaming and other "lesser"  computer functions...yeah. It won't stand up to the next generation of PC games. I'm pretty sure that a PC like that may be better than mine, but it is still barely going to crap by with games like WC3.
If I could go back in time, I would've thrown down the extra 300 for a better computer. But I guess I can't now. And well, you're smart in going to a modern mid-range video card from ATI, but I'd suggest going higher. Try for the 9700 Pro. 150 bucks and it is a beaut.
As for OS, bug the people to give you something better, I use XP home. I honestly think that it tries to spit in my face. It really hates me. I'd have to suggest going Pro on your PC. Linux is a little too hard for a layman to operate effectively enough and you'll probably have some compatibility issues, etc. I'm trying to start running that OS right now myself, but it is a difficult process 
Edit:: Fear the MOBO on that thing, it sounds like they ripped it out of a 286 and brought it closer to the times |
HyperLamer
Posts: 2130/8210 |
Oh, God...
1) Only one PCI slot? Blech. You really should have a good few of those.
2) Celeron = that brown stuff that frequently floats in toilets.
3) No floppy drive? WTF?
4) Integrated video, especially Intel, r teh sux0r.
5) You're probably gonna want around 60-80GB if you spend a decent amount of time on the computer.
6) XP Home is crap. I suggest either XP Pro, 98, or Linux of some sort.
7) Hey, I can count to 7!
Believe me, I have one a lot like that. It's quite sucky. |
neotransotaku
Posts: 1746/4016 |
celeron?  a celeron is good enough if you do not plan on getting games--otherwise, do not get the budget CPU and get the flagship CPUs (either Intel Pentium or Athlon Sempron) |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 791/1757 |
I have found the perfect one!
price tag: $509.00
date of purchase: December 10th
specs:
Available Expansion Bays 1 x 3.5"
Available Expansion Slots 1 x PCI
Cache 256KB
CPU Speed 2.80GHz
CPU Type Intel Celeron
floppy Disk Drive No
Fax/Modem 56K V.92
Graphic Card Intel Extreme Graphics 3D*
Hard Drive 40GB**
I/O Ports 5 x USB 2.0, 2 x PS/2
Network Card 10/100 Ethernet
Optical Drives 48X CD-RW Drive
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
RAM 256MB PC2100 DDR (Exp. To 1.0GB)
Sound Card Integrated
Speakers Stereo Speakers
System Bus 533MHz
Warranty 1 Year Parts & Labour
*will be upgraded either same day, or same week, with a ATI Radeon 9200 128MB AGP
**will also will be buying an extra Hard drive(needs to be external)
brings total to $839
but the video card, and hdd will come when I get more money for christmas, so it might not be right away. |
neotransotaku
Posts: 1742/4016 |
there isn't any good integrated video cards for the PC for gaming... All the ones that are appropriate for gaming are expansion cards. However, if you plan on playing games that have been released around 2001 and before, then most integrated cards nowadays are strong enough to play them. It is just the more recent games that integrated cards are not fit for like Doom3 and Knights of the Republic |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 790/1757 |
well, I dont really want to play doom 3, I was just using it as an example, but my step dad, has a work laptop, and he has doom 3 on it, and it only has a 64 mb video card, and it can only run it on low detail only, the only problem, is the video card overheats after awhile, if he doesnt prop the back up to let cool air in...if I do buy it, ill ask the people there if it has an option to use a different video card...if not ill just try to find one similar but not with an integrated card.
does anyone know if a "S3 Unichrome Integrated" is better then the intel extreme one? |
neotransotaku
Posts: 1741/4016 |
i doubt it will even be able to play doom3 even at the lowest setting...my friend has a Geforce FX5600 and it can barely play it...
if it is integrated, you hopefully have the option to disable the video card and put in an internal video card yourself. if you don't, then I suggest you do not buy that computer if you want to play doom3. A decent video card to play doom3 is an ATi Radeon 9800 with at least 128MB of ram... |
Surlent
Posts: 690/1077 |
The memory of the GFX card cen go _up_ to 64 MB - and is taken off the physical memory (RAM).
Running games like Doom3 or Half Life 2 fluently might be pretty impossible, maybe with low details. Even my GeForce MX4000 (128 MB, APG-slot) won't be able to run of those games fluently in middle or even high detail, but since I anyway don't play games except N64, PSX and other systems, it doesn't matter.
If you are looking for a decent system for gaming mainly, avoid on-board video cards. Usually an external one, like a Radeon 9800Pro might be better, although much more expensive. As said, it heavily what you want to do with the computer mainly. |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 788/1757 |
its a compaq, so it doesnt really matter, I found the same on on a staples site, and it says 64 MB shared, can anyone tell me, it says shared, so what type of games will it be able to play?
I know it will be able to play doom 3, but it will have to be on the lowest quality...and its integrated, so I couldnt get a new one right? |
neotransotaku
Posts: 1740/4016 |
may you provide a link to the computer? |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 787/1757 |
I meant, im looking at a computer to buy, and it has one, but before I buy it, I was wondering how much it had..cause if its less then 128, then I dont really want it. |
neotransotaku
Posts: 1738/4016 |
integrated graphics card? sounds like the card is embedded into the system. If that is the case, how can you use it your computer...not unless you are getting the computer itself..
if that is the case, start->run->"dxdiag" and select the video tab will tell you how much ram the video card has |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 786/1757 |
i have a question, I couldnt find any info on how much video memory it has, im looking at a computer, it has that card, but i only want it if its around 128MB...I checked the intel site, and it doesnt say how much.. |
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