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Xeolord
Posts: 641/3418
*boos thread*

*booos people who think Halo and Half-Life are comparable*

*booooooooooooooo*

For laughs check out somethingawful.com's review of Halo 2, a joke site yes, but it's still fun to read over.
alte Hexe
Posts: 1644/5458
RS3 sucked, and Ghost Recon caters to a very specific taste.

Full Spectrum Warrior and Star Wars: Battlefront do better jobs
oniblade
Posts: 129/183
the only problem i have with it is the lighting, in the night, its easy to miss a small crevice you have to go through(like on "Truth and Reconciliation" adn thats when you have your flashlight on) and then it winds up making the game suck because youre wandering around.

the only FPS i really liked was the jedi outcast series anyways...

im more into prince of persia, and legacy of kain:defiance right now, but i might begin to like fps again if Rainbow Six 3 and Ghost recon are any good since im getting the triple pack when it comes out.
alte Hexe
Posts: 1639/5458
Hence the thread below us

Look, name me one game that has lived up to the hype after SMB3? What is that...None?

Every god damned game is going to be a let down. Now that I look at it, and played it...Warcraft III was a very boring game...Diablo II has a really crappy community (almost as bad as Gunbound ). These games had lots of hype, but in my opinion they haven't thrown themselves even an inch into where people said they would lie. Now, there are under-the-radar games that come out with no hype; Otogi, Mark of Kri, Phantom Crash, SSX (the first one). No one had heard of them until they were released, hence next to no hype was built up...BAM! Great games. This said, I've yet to play a game that has lived up to everything I'd assume it to be. Halo 2, Halo and most FPSs have their faults. They haven't been revolutionary since the first ones came out, because they were always 3D. The only thing that has really made marks on the genre are the inclusion of atmosphere (Half-Life, and other games on those levels like Clive Barker's The Undying), multiplayer (Doom II, Unreal Tournament, Quake, etc.) and alternative modes of combat (Halo, and anything else that has other ways of killing). RPGs are stagnant just in the same sense FPSs have become droning. We have come to expect every game to be a magnum opus of the entire industry no matter how little or how much hype it receives. But people are always going to have biased views on something, especially when it is a sequel to a vastly beloved game. Also, one thing that you people have failed to recognize, living up to the hype doesn't mean the game is bad. You have all made Halo 2 sound like a piece of crap, which it is far from. I haven't played a game with such an enjoyable storyline (one that includes both sides of the conflict and a hint of the third ) or such enjoyable multiplayer for ages.

Another thing, I never liked FPSs, til' Halo came about. It offered a nice and easy learning curve, and enough of everything that made it perfect for introducing people to the genre. The last FPS I played that I have enjoyed this much was Pain Killer. PC gaming is too full of BS I don't need. Especially games like CS and those sorts where the community is butt rotten bad. But, with Halo, me and some buddies hopped on with co-op and had a great time on the campaign. Something I've rarely had fun with in many FPS. And playing through that on the lowest difficulty made the game that much more enjoyable and challenged you to test your skill on higher and higher challenges. Train yourself against friends until you could finally be good enough to see a Covenent crop a feel of some nice tight marine ass.
windwaker
Posts: 410/1797
Don't get me wrong; halo 2 was a great game, it just wasn't as up to snuff as it could have been.

It was good, and still overrated.

The story was good, but dissappointing, ESPECIALLY at the end >(.
DarkSlaya
Posts: 2454/4249
Originally posted by Grey
Halo is not revolutionary, just as Final Fantasy 7 was not revolutionary, just as Grand Theft Auto III was not revolutionary.



Just like no game is revolutionary. Really, it all depends on the person who plays it. If they think one game is something, then let them think that way.

I do not own an Xbox, but I can get my hands on one very often... and really, I prefer Morrowind over Halo.
Utilityman
Posts: 811/813
Originally posted by Grey
Halo is overrated. Halo is not revolutionary, just as Final Fantasy 7 was not revolutionary, just as Grand Theft Auto III was not revolutionary.

Halo changed little about the genre. I own Halo for the PC. On the PC, it's a generic FPS that looks very nice. I can drive vehicles, follow along with an amusing storyline, shoot things, snipe things, rocket launcher things, and if I feel up to it, I can throw a few grenades at my foes. I can do all of this, with the exception of the plot part, in a game such as Unreal Tournament 2004, and I can do literally all of it in Half Life.

I didn't say Halo was a bad game. I just don't think it's worth getting an Xbox for. Similarly, while the ability to punch people off of vehicles is certainly alluring, I doubt I will jump out of my computer chair, buy an Xbox, and get Halo 2 and join the many fanboys that think it's the greatest game ever because they haven't picked up an RPG in their lifetime.

To me, Halo belongs where all good first person shooters belong. On the PC.


Quoted for holy-freaking-mother-of-Mary emphasis.
Garmichael
Posts: 153/166
I dont see how you can say that Halo tried to be like Half life. I dont see many of the same elements AT ALL. you sound like a dipshit, kid. If you're going to joint he anti-halo bandwagon, at least try not to sound like a moron.
Googie
Posts: 206/624
Originally posted by Toxic
Halo and Halo two...meh, but Half Life 2 will be incredible.


your my new best friend! Half Life 2 will blow Halo 2 out of the water, The trailer that I saw here was the best trailer for a FPS. Halo tried to be like Half Life in so many ways, I don't think Halo lived up to the hype in my opinion. So I don't care for that game at all. Mind you I have Xbox & PS2. Half Life 2 all the way.

So I don't like Halo at all, nor part 2 doesn't catch my eye either.
Dylan
Posts: 1141/1407
Originally posted by Toxic
Halo and Halo two...meh, but Half Life 2 will be incredible.

I think my concurrence meter just overloaded.
Sokarhacd
Posts: 576/1757
Originally posted by Grey
just as Final Fantasy 7 was not revolutionary


like hell it wasnt...it changed my whole outlook on rpg's.....and the Final Fantasy series.......anyway back on topic, I dont see why people like halo so much, its not that great.
Colin
Posts: 5082/11302
Speaking of HL2, some *stores* managed to leak it today, which is likely going to get them in a ton of trouble.

Smart move though - online play won't be enabled until the official launch date. So the current owners can play through the game, but they're shut out of online fragging for a while.
Toxic
Posts: 2127/2857
Halo and Halo two...meh, but Half Life 2 will be incredible.
Garmichael
Posts: 150/166
Originally posted by Grey
Halo is overrated. Halo is not revolutionary, just as Final Fantasy 7 was not revolutionary, just as Grand Theft Auto III was not revolutionary.

Halo changed little about the genre. I own Halo for the PC. On the PC, it's a generic FPS that looks very nice. I can drive vehicles, follow along with an amusing storyline, shoot things, snipe things, rocket launcher things, and if I feel up to it, I can throw a few grenades at my foes. I can do all of this, with the exception of the plot part, in a game such as Unreal Tournament 2004, and I can do literally all of it in Half Life.

I didn't say Halo was a bad game. I just don't think it's worth getting an Xbox for. Similarly, while the ability to punch people off of vehicles is certainly alluring, I doubt I will jump out of my computer chair, buy an Xbox, and get Halo 2 and join the many fanboys that think it's the greatest game ever because they haven't picked up an RPG in their lifetime.

To me, Halo belongs where all good first person shooters belong. On the PC.


GTA3 and Halo were sort of revolutionary in the simple aspect that they took alot of great elements from games in those genres, added new elements, and focused on the gameplay aspects. These days, that seems rare.

If you only played Halo on PC, then you're missing out. the port to PC turned halo into a generic FPS, like you said. on the xbox, its alot more.
Im sort of tired of the Halo is overrated thing. Granted, theres alot of dipshit fanboys like there are with FF7.

On the Xbox, the game really is alot different. Theres alot more strategy and subtleties about it. Ive posted all those in another thread, so im not oging to go into it here. One major thing tho, is that one the xbox, everyone is equal. Halo on the xbox is more about the GAME. FPS on PC is more about mastering the controlls, getting a badass mouse, and mastering the ENGINE. not the GAME. I wish i could explain this easier, but the concept is so intangible to me that i cant.

Theres just alot about Halo that I would like to see on other FPS games. When i play most FPS now, i feel those elements i came to appreciate in Halo are missing. For example, Medal of Honor. Its such a shitty game. the AI blows, the engine blows, the scripts blow..

If you're not really into First Person Shooters, then i could imagine why you woudlnt care for Halo. Personally, Ive played a ton of FPS and i noticed alot of the same elements being repeated over and over and the cliche taking over the genre. Halo was a nice breath of fresh air.

Also, FPS no longer belong to the PC. If done right, an FPS is very playable on a console. I think the Xbox is the best right now, because of its contoller. The PSX's analog sticks are too sensative and annoying, and the Gamecube.. well... the GCN controller is best for first party Nintendo games and arcade fighters.

In anycase, Id like to see more Xbox FPS games done as well as Halo was done. The Fragfest genre needs to die. We've played Doom3, serious sam, heritic, hexen, quake, etc etc over and over and over. Im done with the run and gun and blow shit up with the BFG. I need strategy in my FPS, and Halo delivered.

Halo 2, however.. meh. They turned it into a generic run and gun, and im not impressed. If thats your thing, I suggest you play Halo 2 as a game, and not as a Halo sequel. Its a good Fragfest game. Its just not my style.
Colin
Posts: 5070/11302
Ziff: Yes but I only posted that link for fun. Although there's a few games that I don't think you could do that trick with... Ocarina of Time strikes me as possibly one.

I don't think people are being idiots or anything if they like Halo 2 - it's a game in a genre. If you like the genre, odds are you'll probably like the game. Now, whether the game's a status symbol or something in the Xbox world, I can't say.
Grey the Stampede
Posts: 1228/3770
Halo is overrated. Halo is not revolutionary, just as Final Fantasy 7 was not revolutionary, just as Grand Theft Auto III was not revolutionary.

Halo changed little about the genre. I own Halo for the PC. On the PC, it's a generic FPS that looks very nice. I can drive vehicles, follow along with an amusing storyline, shoot things, snipe things, rocket launcher things, and if I feel up to it, I can throw a few grenades at my foes. I can do all of this, with the exception of the plot part, in a game such as Unreal Tournament 2004, and I can do literally all of it in Half Life.

I didn't say Halo was a bad game. I just don't think it's worth getting an Xbox for. Similarly, while the ability to punch people off of vehicles is certainly alluring, I doubt I will jump out of my computer chair, buy an Xbox, and get Halo 2 and join the many fanboys that think it's the greatest game ever because they haven't picked up an RPG in their lifetime.

To me, Halo belongs where all good first person shooters belong. On the PC.
alte Hexe
Posts: 1635/5458
Originally posted by TheMageous
It irks the hell out of me, that they can be total asses and so bloody closed-minded.


Just like Nintendo fanboys running around never shutting up anger me.

Colin, that review is unfair, because if that is the case, I can take a completely sweet game, like GTA: San Andreas and make it look like shit. In fact you can do that for any game.

Shocking.
Darth Roflbbq
Posts: 5/299
Yes windwaker, indeed. I know about hundreds of people (note: exaggeration) who have little to no care about any other game, genre, system, etc. all because of OMG HALO IT ARE SOOOOOO KEWL +10! It irks the hell out of me, that they can be total asses and so bloody closed-minded.
windwaker
Posts: 342/1797
Meh, the Halo story was quite good, the gameplay was average, and it was HORRIBLY OVERRATED.

People worshiped that game like it was the only game out there, just because it was popular.
Sokarhacd
Posts: 571/1757
Hell...I rented the first one, when it was a week rental here...and played it for a few hours....then returned....I dont see whats so good about it...and I dont even think I will rent the second one...I dunno why, I just didnt like it, and I like the odd FPS(Goldeneye, stuff like that) just not halo....its weird, I just guess I didnt think it was the greatest out there...although, im the RPG fan, so I like rpg's better, I do like challenging games more, and most FPS just dont have that, and they are really short.....
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