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Tarale
Posts: 602/2720
I need both.

I use Paint for isometric pixel art.

I use Photoshop for touching up pictures and resizing things.

Mostly I use Open Canvas or Painter...
Kyoufu Kawa
Posts: 796/2481
I hardly ever use Paint. Try to avoid having to draw stuff if I have only Paint.

I stick to PSP8 mainly, though I just installed Potatochop.



Is this PSP9 beta any good?
KawaiiImoto-e
Posts: 494/1068
For Converting to other format and compression settings, I use ErgoImage, a program my late employer developed, and it's quite good, for that. (And viewing images). Or Irfanview.

For my little Editing needs, MS Paint is more than enough.

And a critical point for me that speaks for paint and not photoshop, is: it never crashed on me.
Vim
Posts: 19/42
"GIMP is awesome when it comes to sheer creeping featuritis, which I guess is a good thing in picture editing. It's decidedly NOT awesome when it comes to interface outside of Linux. GIMP was engineered primarily to fit in with other Linux programs. It just didn't feel right on the Windows side of the fence."

That's no accident. As far as I know there was no "official" Gimp port. It's just a GTK2 app which happens to build on Win32 currently due to the port of the libs it relies on.

I thought the Windows GTK2 port had an engine which inherited the Windows widget?
Jesper
Posts: 887/2390
Paint basically rapes every image you choose to convert into another file format than the highest BMP setting. A picture editing program where you can't set transparency or use layers is one I'll be quick to abandon.

GIMP is awesome when it comes to sheer creeping featuritis, which I guess is a good thing in picture editing. It's decidedly NOT awesome when it comes to interface outside of Linux. GIMP was engineered primarily to fit in with other Linux programs. It just didn't feel right on the Windows side of the fence.

I want my MDI or tabbed SDI, I want my palettes, I want to be able to dock the extraneous palettes and toolbars to the sides of the window/edges of the screen. GIMP fails miserably when it comes to fitting into a Windows environment as far as I know. The buttons are grey, that's about right, yes. Standard open/save panel? No. MDI/SDI? No (some freak mix). Tool palette OUTSIDE of the window with the menus? No. Requires a month of training just to be able to handle the window management mentally? Yes.

I won't be revisiting GIMP until it gets a decent Windows UI. This is not impossible. Firefox, for example, was a Mozilla that's reengineered to strip down on menu items from some very high prime to about 10 items on average in every menu. Same with the rest of the interface, it was made more Windows XP-ish (and Mac OS X-ish in some cases, granted). I've tried it on OS X too, and there it looks more like Safari (the main OS X browser). So it's not impossible, just hard.

Until then, I'll stick to my Paint Shop Pro 9 beta.
Vim
Posts: 14/42
Originally posted by Ailura
GIMP, just GIMP.

It's free. And alot better than paint. And it get's as good as Photoshop with enough plugins.

However it's quite a confusing program for newbies.


I can't really add much more than "ditto."
Yoshi Dude
Posts: 1442/3271
Originally posted by Leland Gaunt
Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
So if you had to eliminate one program, it would be photoshop. is this what you are telling me?
You like read my mind.


....
I wasn't directing that at YOU, I just didn't quote the person who I was talking to because I thought it would be obvious.
Jizuko
Posts: 585/1191
Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
So if you had to eliminate one program, it would be photoshop. is this what you are telling me?
You like read my mind.
Yoshi Dude
Posts: 1440/3271
So if you had to eliminate one program, it would be photoshop. is this what you are telling me?
Jizuko
Posts: 582/1191
Photoshop, definately. There's a reason adobe is gaining shitloads from it even if it costs like 10k.
GIMP sucks monkey arse, I tried it and I hated it, who the hell wants a different (main) window for every project, the brush set and other things anyway? Yay, have the whole taskbar filled! And menus on rightclick is just st0pid.
Photoshop can do pixel, and it can do it good, it never AA for me if I don't want it to, just use the pencil tool on 1px not the brush tool

Even if you want to do something simple photoshop is the way to go, I mean, how fun is it to restart because you do something wrong? Paint has like 2 history steps if even that. In photoshop you have 20-100, you pick
And layers, what can you do without layers anyway? Draw a line?

Oh, and the cost of a product is moot for most people online
Ailure
Posts: 4872/11162
Originally posted by Prier
Turn anti-aliasing off.
But even then, Paint is good for the simple pixel for pixel related stuff. I don't see the need for GIMP/Photoshop if your making pixel art.

I have drawn a few things in GIMP, but they dosen't make justice. I draw slightly better on hand.
Dylan
Posts: 879/1407
Originally posted by Gavin

and neither is really 'better', it just depends on what you need and like.

Um, no. Photoshop is way better.
Gavin
Posts: 178/799
i tend to stick to Paint when possible, i don't need to load up complex brush patterns and large custom image effects when i'm just fucking around.

any sort of graphic to be published to the web i'll probably create in photoshop. unless i'm going for that "MS Paint" look

and neither is really 'better', it just depends on what you need and like.
Xkeeper
Posts: -3253/-863
Even then it still antialiases (however slightly)

Considering I like a very large long line 1px wide to be all one color (white/black, not 1,1,1 and FE,FE,FE) for easier editing.

Then again I don't draw large, complex stuff in Photoshop. After all...



lolol.
Prier
Posts: 2941/8392
Originally posted by Xkeeper
...Last I checked Photoslop lacked a pixel-by-pixel zoom feature without antialiasing...


Turn anti-aliasing off.
Sofie
Posts: 832/1210
photoshop.
I've used both pretty much, but photoshop>paint.
it doesn't take that long to load, about 3 seconds just now
Isn't this showing x-y coordinates, btw?
Xkeeper
Posts: -3254/-863
Paint, you idiots.

Last I checked Photoslop lacked a pixel-by-pixel zoom feature without antialiasing, which is good when I'm designing lame fonts for use in lame scripts that have absolutely nothing to do with anything lame-related (lamenews, et--) *shot*

Besides, Photoslop takes a good hour to load. I can make 2 fonts in the time it takes to load...

...complete with fancy schmancy gradients.
Ailure
Posts: 4848/11162
GIMP, just GIMP.

It's free. And alot better than paint. And it get's as good as Photoshop with enough plugins.

However it's quite a confusing program for newbies.
Yoshi Dude
Posts: 1438/3271
Where's Naomi Watts? I like her more than Photoshop. This is biased.
Gywall
Posts: 89/356
*looks at poll*

Where's PSP? (Paint Shop Pro)
Or would that be both?
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