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FreeDOS
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This is a start on making it right: http://mike.warpedbelief.com/nebetsu/



Finish it yourself... I don't feel like editing all your files.
Nebetsu
Posts: 173/1574
Originally posted by Disch
No... you don't understand. See... Firefox/Opera/Konquerer/etc actually follow a set of standards. IE kinda does, but it also makes up its own shit. So when people code their page to work in IE, they're doing pseudo code which only IE interprets properly.

This isn't about Firefox being fast. It's about IE being stupid. Pages that only render properly in IE are broken pages. IE's the one that's messed up. Hell, Google doesn't even render properly in IE.

But meh. If you want to stay in your own little world, cool. Like I said, lemme know when you're interested in making a real web page.


Fine. You've made your point. I'm still not going to rush right now and fix it.
Dish
Posts: 131/596
No... you don't understand. See... Firefox/Opera/Konquerer/etc actually follow a set of standards. IE kinda does, but it also makes up its own shit. So when people code their page to work in IE, they're doing pseudo code which only IE interprets properly.

This isn't about Firefox being fast. It's about IE being stupid. Pages that only render properly in IE are broken pages. IE's the one that's messed up. Hell, Google doesn't even render properly in IE.

But meh. If you want to stay in your own little world, cool. Like I said, lemme know when you're interested in making a real web page.
Nebetsu
Posts: 172/1574
Originally posted by Gavin
Originally posted by Nebetsu
I dont want to make another template rbecause people use crappy browsers right now. Maybe later.


hahaha

oh jesus christ that was good, thanks for the laugh


I seriously dont support a browser that sacrifices every possible thing it can for speed. Sure it's fast, but it can't read half the sites on the internet. Do they call it a bug? NO! They call it a problem with the site. You cant just make a browser that doesnt view half the stuff on the internet and then tell people that their websites suck. It doesnt make any sense.
Gavin
Posts: 209/799
Originally posted by Nebetsu
I dont want to make another template rbecause people use crappy browsers right now. Maybe later.


hahaha

oh jesus christ that was good, thanks for the laugh
Dish
Posts: 130/596
Originally posted by Nebetsu
I dont want to make another template rbecause people use crappy browsers right now. Maybe later.



You already did make a template for a crappy browser. I'm saying you should actually code your page RIGHT so that it works on real browsers.
Nebetsu
Posts: 171/1574
Originally posted by Disch
Originally posted by Nebetsu

Wow. Firefox sucks.


Meh... I don't even think I'm going to dignify this with a real response.

When you're interested in making a real web page, lemme know.


Well I'll get right on it... later... when I dont feel lazy... I dont want to make another template rbecause people use crappy browsers right now. Maybe later.

In other news: DOMAIN NAME!

www.nebetsu.tk
Dish
Posts: 129/596
Originally posted by Nebetsu

Wow. Firefox sucks.


Meh... I don't even think I'm going to dignify this with a real response.

When you're interested in making a real web page, lemme know.
FreeDOS
Posts: 711/1657
It's not Firefox, it's your code.

When you want a fixed layout (which I wouldn't recommend), please actually make it one.
Nebetsu
Posts: 170/1574
Originally posted by Disch
you have issues with your design:

http://www.geocities.com/disch_/yoursite.png (copy/paste to address bar is geocities doesn't like when you click it)

I'd assume that's not intentional.

Anyway... I'd also like to revoice my objection to fixed-window layouts and popup windows with content. As you can see, the tiny, unresizable window only takes up like a quarter of my screen... making it very obnoxious.

I don't mean to be blunt... but that layout is shitty. A plain text page would be better. I mean really... pop up windows and fixed size layouts are the worst things you can do to a page aside from background music.


Wow. Firefox sucks. Also I am thinking of making it not a fixed size layout and without popups. I'll make a template when I feel like it.
Dylan
Posts: 930/1407
Originally posted by Disch

I don't mean to be blunt... but that layout is shitty. A plain text page would be better. I mean really... pop up windows and fixed size layouts are the worst things you can do to a page aside from background music.

Sha-shing! A winner is u!
Dish
Posts: 128/596
you have issues with your design:

http://www.geocities.com/disch_/yoursite.png (copy/paste to address bar is geocities doesn't like when you click it)

I'd assume that's not intentional.

Anyway... I'd also like to revoice my objection to fixed-window layouts and popup windows with content. As you can see, the tiny, unresizable window only takes up like a quarter of my screen... making it very obnoxious.

I don't mean to be blunt... but that layout is shitty. A plain text page would be better. I mean really... pop up windows and fixed size layouts are the worst things you can do to a page aside from background music.
Dylan
Posts: 929/1407
Originally posted by Nebetsu
Well I decided to go with the more original one. Here it is: http://www.speedsurf.to/nebetsu/

Bla. Too bad your background on the little pop-up window doesn't stretch. Unless it only works in IE, which you SHOULDN'T do. Eh, I say scrap it and make a new layout, without copying Maddox.
Nebetsu
Posts: 169/1574
Well I decided to go with the more original one. Here it is: http://www.speedsurf.to/nebetsu/
Jesper
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My brain almost exploded while reading the font discussions. Monospace is a type of font. Fixed-width fonts (where, say, a w is as wide as, say, an i) are monospace fonts. Examples of monospace fonts: Courier New, Terminal, Fixedsys (Windows font), Monaco (Mac font). Other types of fonts include: Sans Serif (Arial, Verdana), Serif (Times New Roman), Cursive/Fantasy (Brush Script), Dingbats (Wingdings).

Fixed width layouts in popup windows are really good and great for every purpose imaginable. If you're stuck in 1997. It's more work to do one of them and it's only getting harder to use them. Use real links and resizable fonts, and give me a wide container element (table/div) that's around 700 pixels. Welcome to the 21st century.
Kaiser Wilhelm
Posts: 34/37
Make the second one free-scaling (add some padding cells, or divs, or whatever you're using, not checked the source) and I'm all for it

I'm using GNU/Linux too, Debian, and maybe it's the browser (Firefox), but the font's showing up fine, and I don't have fixedsys installed, but I do have terminal fonts on here.
FreeDOS
Posts: 691/1657
Originally posted by AcidMan
Originally posted by Nebetsu1. It's a maddox fansite.



...And do you think Mr. Maddox would approve of your blatantly unimaginative fansite, or would he just mock it relentlessly?
I'll tell you something: It's not the first Maddox rip off I've seen.
Dish
Posts: 123/596
The popup window thing is a really bad idea. Personally I don't like ANY site design that doesn't size to fit the text. After all... the content is the point of the site, so the design should revolve around the content.... the content shouldn't have to change to conform to the design. (fixed window designs are right up there on my "don't put this on your webpage list" right along with multiple scrollbars and background music)

The actual design of the second one doesn't seem that bad. Just make it resizable and keep it in a regular window. Might want to tone down the border text so that it's not as loud (it's just there for atmosphere, it's not something the user's eyes should be drawn to, so maybe dim it a little?).

As for the first one. I don't see much of a design at all. It's just a black background with a bunch of regular yellow underlined links.

I'd say go with the second one definitely. Just touch it up a bit more
AcidMan
Posts: 22/35
Originally posted by Nebetsu1. It's a maddox fansite.



...And do you think Mr. Maddox would approve of your blatantly unimaginative fansite, or would he just mock it relentlessly?

Just to be nitpicky, I can't even see the second site, and I noticed several glaringly obvious factual errors and spelling mistakes in your fansite. You might want to change them.
Nebetsu
Posts: 151/1574
Originally posted by Modereb
First one: Looking familiar? You just ripped Maddox's page and changed some images/titles, even the source is almost completely identical to Maddox's, and you left some chunks of 'Best page in the universe' in the source.
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