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alte Hexe
Posts: 1154/5458
Originally posted by Apple
"Iron Maiden is almost unknown today"

HAHAHAHAHA. Your not serious right? Iron Maiden is probably the most known metal band ever. I mean besides Metallica but meh. I see Iron Maiden shirts at least twice a day everyday. Go out and ask any body whos in to metal and they will know them. I'm sorry but just because the youth and musicially challenged rather just listen to mainstream numetal doesn't mean everyone has forgotten about the good stuff.

And for the record. I AM NOT calling Iron Maiden overrated.


You don't live in the real world do you? It is known by name, but ask someone to name a song other than Number of the Beast. They freeze up. They might say one of their big songs, but, even then they don't really know them. This is within metal circles, which I'm involved in. Trust me on this
Apple
Posts: 387/594
"Iron Maiden is almost unknown today"

HAHAHAHAHA. Your not serious right? Iron Maiden is probably the most known metal band ever. I mean besides Metallica but meh. I see Iron Maiden shirts at least twice a day everyday. Go out and ask any body whos in to metal and they will know them. I'm sorry but just because the youth and musicially challenged rather just listen to mainstream numetal doesn't mean everyone has forgotten about the good stuff.

In any case, I'm not all too fond of Iron Maiden. I wont deny the fact they wrote some legendary metal tracks or that they were talented musicians, I just never got attached to them like I did to so many other bands. (And before its asked, I own 5 of their CDs so I am experinced in their music).

And for the record. I AM NOT calling Iron Maiden overrated.
Husky Flamer
Posts: 9/23
Originally posted by witeasprinwow
Originally posted by Husky Flamer
Overrated: RAP. People get too fucking high on testosterone for no reason over this music. What's worse is that it's practically a culture. Eminem is a prime example of that. He's got the deep lyrics, no doubt but it's too much testosterone, too much unneeded attitude.

White Boy Music. I'm talking about Sugar Ray, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, and practically anything else you hear a MILLION times on the radio or could be on that latest Kidz Bop CD that could make you sweat blood because it's so asinine to listen to.

Underrated: Electronic music. Hardly ANYone listens to it and this genre has some originality to it. I'm not just saying this because it's my most favorite genre but really, it has originality.


Your heart is in the right place, but you are making very broad generalizations. It's just as possible to be original and intelligent and heartfelt with rap as it is to be stale and repetitive with electronic music. It's all about the individual artist.
Well yes, I did leave some things didn't I? Every genre has it's repititiveness and also, you gotta know WHO to listen to.
Ramadan Roy
Posts: 371/816
Originally posted by Comrade Leejnikov
" But I believe that people should look beyond them sometimes when listening to some good rock. "

And how, pray tell, do you know that they don't?


Well, perhaps I worded that the wrong way. I meant to say that people who think that Led Zeppelin is the best band ever and don't really look at other bands like The Who should acknowledge them. I am by no means saying that all people who love Led Zeppelin do that. I know a lot of people who don't.

I really don't enjoy Pink Floyd(except for Another Brick in the Wall part 1's catchy sound) because of their "out of the ordinary" and thus good sound and feel to other people. I mean, yes, it is unique, but I'm sorry, their songs don't really get to me. There really isn't any depth to their songs in my opinion. Also, I feel I have to say the same about their film, The Wall, and their music videos. Once again, I'd like to say that's just my opinion.
Gavin
Posts: 137/799
Originally posted by witeasprinwow
The only reason I could see anyone not liking Pink Floyd is because they go overboard with the effects and studio work, and basically just overproduce thier music. They're by all means quite a talented group of people, though.


but see, if that's the case then you're not hearing all Pink Floyd has to offer. Take the time to listen to some of the bands first songsfor example, and you'll see that's simply not the case.
witeasprinwow
Posts: 331/555
The only reason I could see anyone not liking Pink Floyd is because they go overboard with the effects and studio work, and basically just overproduce thier music. They're by all means quite a talented group of people, though.
Legion
Posts: 1838/5657
" But I believe that people should look beyond them sometimes when listening to some good rock. "

And how, pray tell, do you know that they don't?

"The minute I hear justification for Pink Floyd being "bad" is the minute I bomb something."

So I take it no bombing from you then? Because there IS no justification.

Ramadan Roy
Posts: 370/816
Originally posted by witeasprinwow


Actually, Led Zeppelin wasn't really popular at all during the 70's. All the hype you hear about how big of an influence they were during the 70's is revisionist history. They became popular during the 80's because most of the 80's glam-rock and metal draws from Led Zeppelin as a major influence. Granted, I think they are an incredible band, but they were too heavy for the majority of people during the 70s.



I know that, but, I'm more or less talking about people today who listen to music from the 70's-80's who don't really focus on The Who, but other bands like Led Zeppelin. By the way, I am not saying that I don't like Led Zeppelin. In fact, I love their songs. But I believe that people should look beyond them sometimes when listening to some good rock.

Ziff: I thought I already talked to you about how much I despise Pink Floyd?
witeasprinwow
Posts: 329/555
Originally posted by Husky Flamer
Overrated: RAP. People get too fucking high on testosterone for no reason over this music. What's worse is that it's practically a culture. Eminem is a prime example of that. He's got the deep lyrics, no doubt but it's too much testosterone, too much unneeded attitude.

White Boy Music. I'm talking about Sugar Ray, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, and practically anything else you hear a MILLION times on the radio or could be on that latest Kidz Bop CD that could make you sweat blood because it's so asinine to listen to.

Underrated: Electronic music. Hardly ANYone listens to it and this genre has some originality to it. I'm not just saying this because it's my most favorite genre but really, it has originality.


Your heart is in the right place, but you are making very broad generalizations. It's just as possible to be original and intelligent and heartfelt with rap as it is to be stale and repetitive with electronic music. It's all about the individual artist.
Husky Flamer
Posts: 8/23
Overrated: RAP. People get too fucking high on testosterone for no reason over this music. What's worse is that it's practically a culture. Eminem is a prime example of that. He's got the deep lyrics, no doubt but it's too much testosterone, too much unneeded attitude.

White Boy Music. I'm talking about Sugar Ray, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, and practically anything else you hear a MILLION times on the radio or could be on that latest Kidz Bop CD that could make you sweat blood because it's so asinine to listen to.

Underrated: Electronic music. Hardly ANYone listens to it and this genre has some originality to it. I'm not just saying this because it's my most favorite genre but really, it has originality.
witeasprinwow
Posts: 327/555
Originally posted by Trunxy/Dogan

The Who. People today just look at them as some other band during the 70's that was overshadowed by Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd.


Actually, Led Zeppelin wasn't really popular at all during the 70's. All the hype you hear about how big of an influence they were during the 70's is revisionist history. They became popular during the 80's because most of the 80's glam-rock and metal draws from Led Zeppelin as a major influence. Granted, I think they are an incredible band, but they were too heavy for the majority of people during the 70s.

Overrated:

-Post-Black Album Metallica. Every time I hear someone say Enter Sandman is "Heavy Metal" I want to punch someone's face in. For that matter, none of Kirk Hammet's solos are really that hard, old or new.

-Lots of 80's "Shredders" who really weren't fast at all, but just knew how to finger-tap and sweep pick. Vai or Malmsteen would blow them out of the water any day of the week.

-JIMI HENDRIX WAS NOT THE FASTEST GUITARIST EVER. He recieved the title "The Greatest Guitarist Ever", which is entirely subjective, and for some reason people intepreted "Greatest" as "Fastest". Again, Vai and Malmsteen (And the rest of the big-name guitar players) make him look like a novice.

-I'd say Nirvana is overrated, but considering there's a lot of people who are out saying that Kurt Cobain was a "Musical Genius" and that Nirvana was the "Best Band Ever"... Really, no band could ever live up to hype like that. Kurt was smart, but his intelligence lied in the intentional stupidity in his music.

-The Beatles are a great band, but once again, nobody can really live up to the title of "Best Band Ever!!!11111"

-A lot of people go around saying that System of a Down's guitarist is really good. He really isn't that good, he just looks into the dark and forgotten corners of music theory to pull out those weird licks he comes up with.

Underrated:

-I think Tool is way ahead of thier time. Unlike every other metal band these days, they're trying to find a heavier heavy, but without all the things that make modern nu-metal so shitty.

-Iron Maiden is almost unknown today except that you occassionally see a punk rocker wearing one of thier shirts. They're one of the most influential metal bands ever.

-Judas Priest is not talked about enough.
alte Hexe
Posts: 1140/5458
The minute I hear justification for Pink Floyd being "bad" is the minute I bomb something.

Oh, and I agree that pretty much every rock band is over-rated.

A good relationship for overrated underrated would be Rob Zombie vs. White Zombie. Everyone listens to the former, which pales in comparison with the latter.
Arwon
Posts: 104/506
I'm only thinking in terms of "big" acts here, because anyone can rattle off a list of underappreciated local/underground stuff they personally like. That's just obnoxious.

I think Talking Heads are a bit under-rated, but that's just me and I think I like it that way. David Byrne himself is under-rated as far as the big old "god-heads" of music go - Bowie, Reed, Dylan, whoever else you care to name, probably because he's a bug-eyed weirdo who sings about television and peanut butter and beer. Byrne has aged far more gracefully than most - his latest album does NOT sound like that of a tired 50 year old.

A band that springs to mind as really under-rated are the B-52's. Everyone knows 'Love Shack' and a lot of people know 'Rock Lobster' but their repetoire runs a lot further than that. Off-kilter, zany, always fun, quite original and unclassifiable compared to their contempraries... and they even rose from the ashes after their singer died. They're underestimated.

They're still damn fun to see live, too, and apparently still all about the party well into middle age.


Over-rated to me would be the quality of having a conventionally "good voice". This covers all sorts of crap. "Bad" voices usually have a lot more personality and style anyway.
Ramadan Roy
Posts: 356/816
Overrated:
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Red Hot Chili Peppers. Bon Jovi. Dave Matthews Band. Pink Floyd. Any other band that is found to be liked mostly by white children along the Eastern coast of the U.S.(Especially in MY state, New Jersey) They are really not good, people! The parts of these bands that everyone finds so good(the lead singer, lyrics) is what I find to be atrocious.

Underrated:
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The Who. People today just look at them as some other band during the 70's that was overshadowed by Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. However, people fail to see that first of all, The Who first came out in the 60's, as well as the fact that they have a distinctly different taste than other bands at that time. To me, their songs during the 60's sound like the Beatles except more badass. I mean, I do know a couple of people who are into The Who[and other bands at the time] but only for songs like Baba O' Riley(Better known as Teenage Wasteland) and Behind Blue Eyes and fail to see the sweet and simpler songs like Squeeze Box and Sister Disco.

By the way, this is just what I've seen from people in my town and surrounding areas.
alte Hexe
Posts: 1136/5458
Most underrated band ever? I'd say Iron Maiden, but people give them the respect they deserve. Albeit, not enough. I'm going with Blind Guardian, they don't get the props they need, and are generally pissed on in the metal community.

For overrated, anything that is on the HIT radio stations
Thoughtless
Posts: 57/149
Overrrated:

Avril Lavigne.

I still have no flying fuck what makes her special.

Underrated:

Robi Draco Rosa.

I spit on the peopel who think Ricky Martin is the best thing to come out of Menudo. Draco makes great spanish rock/pop music.

Apple
Posts: 382/594
Just listing bands as they come to mind.

Overrated
- Godsmack
- Nine Inch Nails
- Metallica
- Korn
- Slipknot
- Slayer
- Cradle Of Filth
- Dimmu Borgir

Thats enough for now...

Underrated
- All the bands I like that no one has heard of.

Yep. I could list them but whats the point when everyone will be like "Who?".
Clockworkz
Posts: 1323/2002
Really? I was waiting for Metallica's Sandman...
Arwon
Posts: 103/506
I'm waiting for the Kidzbop cover of NIN's 'Closer', personally.
Clockworkz
Posts: 1316/2002
Overratted:
Any and every pop-singer/band that was coveered on any Kidz Bop CD *shudder*. They just suck. Any band/singer that gets covered on a kiddie album is usually popular, but in reality, they just suck. See also: Brittney Spears; Christina Agulara; J-Lo; Justin Timberlake; etc.

Underrated:
Moby. He has a wide variety of music for any kind of person. Most signifigant is his album Voodoo Child: The End of Everything. It is so meldoic and heartfelt that you will not be the same person after you hear this. Take the most beatuful melody you've ever heard and multiply it by a million. That's The End of Everything. Animal Rights isn't bad either. Very destructive though; the album is like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Listen to it and you'll know what I mean.
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