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RoboticParanoia
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I got spanked by a child, and I turned out alright...it's actually, really the only way to go.
You have to create a negative reward (Ie pain) to reinforce their knowledge of what's right and wrong. If you don't want to hurt the child, make them watch a scary movie (how about "It"?). Same thing, really. |
Colin
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Some auctions start low and go high on eBay. Dunno why, but I guess some people like to see 100 different people bid on their item.  |
Ailure
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Originally posted by HyperHacker
If they were selling it to repay the losses, why was the first bid like 2 bucks? 
For getting attention maybe? 
That's my theory... |
Emptyeye
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Yeah, If anything, the funniest thing was that the parents still came out behind on the whole thing by about $15.
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Heian-794
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HH, perhaps their message to the kid was, "You better hope the bidding gets high!" |
Jarukoth
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Originally posted by The SomerZ
When a child has done something wrong, he or she needs to know that what he or she has done is wrong, but not through punishment. Punishing your children shows that you look at them as second-class citizens. It may be the easy way out, but in the long run, it's not a good way to go.
You were obviously never punished...
And of course you need to tell them what they've done is wrong, but at the same time show them that there are conseqences for such behavior. A two pronged attack, if you will. |
HyperLamer
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If they were selling it to repay the losses, why was the first bid like 2 bucks? |
Cymoro
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Originally posted by The SomerZ
You're comparing children to Adolf Hitler?
More or less, yes. I'm not camparing them to his aryanistic-racist-facist traits, however, I'm comparing them to his dictatorial traits.
Hitler took over a country. Chamberlain told the League of Nations to let him have it in order to avoid a war. They merely told Hitler not to do it again. He did (Whoopsy!), and Chamberlain still said to not do anything, just to avoid a war. Repeat a few more times, until they get to Poland. THAT is when Adolph got the smack to the head.
Now, let's look at another aspect; the child psych. When you tell a child that what they did was wrong, or give them a time-out, they're like "That's it? That wasn't too bad". They don't learn, and do it again. Now, if you associate a bit of pain (ie: being flicked in the back of the head once), they'll go "Ow, that hurt! Maybe I shouldn't do that". Children and young teens aren't as reasonable, and wouldn't care why it's bad. You need a bit of aggressiveness. |
Seph2k4
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*points out*
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Serves him right, he deserved it. Ever hear the old saying "think before you leap"? I don't think anyone here would be this stupid, not even myself. |
Heian-794
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Seems fair enough to me -- the kid cost them over $120 with his ridiculous antics, and so he has to pay it back.
I wonder if they offered him any other ways to pay the money back before deciding on selling his PS2. Seems like they deliberately chose to sell something he really values just to show him the error of his ways.
If I were a parent, I would have said, "Earn $179.00, or I'm selling this" first. |
alte Hexe
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It is a different culture. My family is like a farmer family. It is bred into us to be rough.
I think that the Scandinavian culture is different because causing rifts in that sort of environment is a little more risky...I guess...
I suppose that my family is rougher for reasons unknown. We've always been this way. My dad was hit by his dad, who was hit by his dad, etc. And my grandfather was a fairly successful man, successfully raising three productive children. His father managed to pull our family out of a country that was plunged into the despotic cruelty of the Soviet Union through having a well disciplined family. Again, I think this is a throw back of the Cossack culture in which my family is steeped.
Now, I'm not for the belt (which I got when I was a child)...But really, spankings and a good thwaking every now and then sets them straight. Good and straight. |
Yarx
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Originally posted by The SomerZ
You're comparing children to Adolf Hitler? Forget what I said about second-class citizens, you regard them as far less than that, I see.
Punishing your child is the easy way out, a cop-out. Anyone can punish their child when they've done something wrong, and while this may be an easy thing to do, as it might make the child not do the same thing over again, it doesn't educate the child. Children do not need to know that what they've done is bad, but rather why it's bad. Punishing them does not teach them why it's bad. Being a parent means raising your child into becoming as good a human being as it can be, you don't attain that by simply punishing your child.
I was hit as a kid as well. Usually it was a wooden spoon over the hands. You'd know it too, cause you'd have to hold your hands out. And if you pulled them away that was an extra smack. Once I got older my parents started making us write lines when we got in trouble. (Think bart simpson and the chalk board). I prefered to get hit with the spoon
It's easy to redicule from our perspective Somerz, but if you were in that kind of situation, how would you punish a child. |
Private Adamant
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Originally posted by The SomerZ
You're comparing children to Adolf Hitler? Forget what I said about second-class citizens, you regard them as far less than that, I see.
Punishing your child is the easy way out, a cop-out. Anyone can punish their child when they've done something wrong, and while this may be an easy thing to do, as it might make the child not do the same thing over again, it doesn't educate the child. Children do not need to know that what they've done is bad, but rather why it's bad. Punishing them does not teach them why it's bad. Being a parent means raising your child into becoming as good a human being as it can be, you don't attain that by simply punishing your child.
So what would you do if your kid drank your 120$ Champagne? |
The SomerZ
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You're comparing children to Adolf Hitler? Forget what I said about second-class citizens, you regard them as far less than that, I see.
Punishing your child is the easy way out, a cop-out. Anyone can punish their child when they've done something wrong, and while this may be an easy thing to do, as it might make the child not do the same thing over again, it doesn't educate the child. Children do not need to know that what they've done is bad, but rather why it's bad. Punishing them does not teach them why it's bad. Being a parent means raising your child into becoming as good a human being as it can be, you don't attain that by simply punishing your child. |
Cymoro
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Originally posted by The SomerZ
When a child has done something wrong, he or she needs to know that what he or she has done is wrong, but not through punishment. Punishing your children shows that you look at them as second-class citizens. It may be the easy way out, but in the long run, it's not a good way to go.
You're in favor of appeasement? That's odd. Chamberlain was back before WW2, when Hitler was taking over Europe.
If you're not, then tell us what we should do to our kids if they do something like that Ebay auction. |
The SomerZ
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When a child has done something wrong, he or she needs to know that what he or she has done is wrong, but not through punishment. Punishing your children shows that you look at them as second-class citizens. It may be the easy way out, but in the long run, it's not a good way to go. |
alte Hexe
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My punishment as a child? Well, lets start as a youngin'...My dad would hit me, sure. Lots of kids got hit in my neighbourhood. I was the only one hit with sticks and spoons and other things...But nonetheless, can't hold it against the man. Other than when he back handed me for crying. That pisses me off to this day.
But really, if the punishment isn't physical, it won't do anything. Last time my parents grounded me, years ago, I just got pissed and found other things to occupy my time. I can block anyone out who is yelling at me. It is weird.
Just as a comment. Welcome to the pussy world of the new Millenium, where kids are going to grow up as total wusses and when war comes, we're fucked. |
Private Adamant
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Originally posted by The SomerZ
Quote, my mother: "What is it with Americans and their belief that whenever a child has done something wrong the best thing to do is to punish them?". Punishment is a rather foreign concept in Scandinavian pedagogy, and is seen as a rather primitive method of raising your child.
Further proof my parents are primitive cavemen stuck in the 80s. *starts playing Pac-Man* Wee, best game ever.
Yeah, I was spanked as a kid. No hard feelings or anything. In fact, I believe parents have become too soft. It's not good for a kid to be protected from everything. If they do something wrong, you punish them. That way, they'll learn of consequenses, and they wont attempt to do stuff like that again. If they aren't taught this, they'll most likely get into a lot more trouble once they grow up, and ae more likely to turn to crime and drugs.
Also, what's up with all this protection on playgrounds? Is it really nessecary with a huge layer of sand under every tree that can possibly be climbed? It wasn't 15 years ago, and it isn't now. If the playground was safe enough back then, you don't need to close it due to new regulations, made to prevent kids from getting a tiny graze that doesn't even bleed. And no, a 7-year-old doesn't need elbow- and knee pads when riding a bicycle.
Yeah, I'm ranting way off topic.
To sum it up:
Punishment = good
Todays society = stupid.
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Cymoro
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Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
Originally posted by Legion
That's blatant child abuse.
(maddox image linked by MathOnNapkins)
How I didn't notice this earlier is beyond me, but..
In other news, Viewtiful Joe is coming out on PS2. So much for this kid. |
Yoshi Dude
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Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
Originally posted by Legion
That's blatant child abuse.
(maddox image linked by MathOnNapkins)
How I didn't notice this earlier is beyond me, but..
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