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Sandy53215
Posts: 92/948 |
My teacher read it wrong!!! I just found out when I checked it out. He thought we each had 7 gigs when I told him we had 7 gigs total. Yes I was wrong, but because I didn't check. And Erk yes my teacher is a fuktard. |
mrmenz
Posts: 69/347 |
Uh yea Randy, you should really go talk to your school admins. Why were you put in charge of it anyway? I say your school should take a couple hundred bucks and actually hire someone who knows what they are doing. This makes no sense if your school uses all computers then why the hell dont they have some type of analyst who can actually do this type of stuff. |
ErkDog
Posts: 586/982 |
yeah but he's also talking about "space on a server"
which makes no sense whatsoever, in any degree
so obviously he nor anyone else who seems to think he does...
actually know at all what they are talking about
and obviously the school is beyond retarted
for asking a student.... who is like 15 computer questions ...
as opposed to someone like me, who has forgotten more about computers than randy will ever know....
no offense randy, I'm just a smart fucker |
kitty
Posts: 1167/2449 |
SPACE on a server? I HOPE you realize that we're talking about how much this would cost for an ACTUAL PC at your school... if you want a webserver, this will be hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars a MONTH!
And Randy: Um, ok, a 100-Page textbook IN PDF FORMAT takes up like 10 megs (WITH IMAGES)... so um... I have no idea what your PC-illiterate teachers/administrators are thinking.
Let's see here...
8 books per year * 20 megs a book (OVER ESTIMATE) * 4 years (NO NEED to multiply by 375, 1 remote book copy is enough for every student) = 640 MB
Documents: 10MB (NO WAY IN HELL) * 375 students * 4 years = 15000 MB
Video/Audio editing: 50 MB per student (NO WAY IN HELL) * 375 * 4 = 75000 MB
Total = 90640 MB or about 95GB of HD space (since HD mfg's say 1 GB = 1 000 000 000 bytes, and OSes say 1 GB = 1 073 741 824 bytes).
Even if each student did video/audio editing, used 100MB each (NO FUCKING WAY), and ALL the work was saved over 4 years (in other words, a Sr can still view work from Fr year), you're talking about less than 670 gigs! |
Sandy53215
Posts: 86/948 |
OK AS I STATED ABOVE!!!!! I hope you read it!
All we need is the godamn server we have everything else. We have protection against everything. My school is just retarted I guess. This is what I was told. I am not telling them anything. They just wanted me to look for the space on a server so I did. Its not like I made the LIST!!!! |
Surlent
Posts: 309/1077 |
3000 $ probably won't fit all all. As said above, every student don't need several gigabytes of storage place; instead the computers should be good enough to run Photoshop with several images open simultaneously for example. The best server system doesn't work if the the comps are too crappy 
Don't forget the servers need to be checked as well; and everything needs to be backuped daily too, on external harddrives, which can be plugged of the network after holding the data. If a virus destroys any diploma tasks or something equivalent, this will be more than bad, if the backup-server got infected and the recovery hard drives are los as well  .
For some people, even MS Word already destroyed their documents in very large amount of pages, including images and such; so it should be sure as well 
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macks
Posts: 214/900 |
Originally posted by Chaosflare
uh, and what makes you think that max, I did video editing last year, and hes right...your the one whos wrong.
Oh sorry, should have said proffesional video editing.
And TG, it doesn't matter if they "look great". It should look perfect, exactly the way it looked when filmed. That means: no loss. You work with the raw video material, and convert the fully edited product to whatever you want it encoded to. |
Sandy53215
Posts: 85/948 |
Ok, as I stated before, I guess I will have to state it again. My school is just on computers. Which means we dont have fucking text books. Also I said we are a high school and we need all our work for all four years. Plus the 375 students is only the Freshmans and Sophmores. We are a brand new school and every year we will open another grade so next year we will have Jr.'s too. The point doesnt matter on what it is for. We have the cords and all. I said we have a server but we need our own which in reality means we have the tools already. Ok so to make it shorter we just need a server at our school!
Any other arguements? |
HyperLamer
Posts: 734/8210 |
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Well let's see. 375 students at 6GB each = 2.250 TB.
That's probably why. Now, for $1200 you can get the 1TB hard drive mentioned earlier, so 2 of those, a 200GB and a 50GB will be just enough for all that (but you might want to just get 2 200GBs as well so there's space for staff and system files). It's still gonna cost quite a bit though, and that's not including the stuff you'll need to get it actually working. (Plus you'll need a rather fast server/LAN if you're going to be using huge files like that.) |
kitty
Posts: 1158/2449 |
Erk: Why do you insist on doubling the amount of space he said he "needed"? |
ErkDog
Posts: 566/982 |
regardless.... they aren't doing fucking video editing anyway....
and hav eno need for anywhere near 300 Gigs of storage... much less 3 TERABYTES |
kitty
Posts: 1155/2449 |
Originally posted by Max
Tomguy, you obviously don't know anything about video editing.
Yeah, like hell I don't, I've never used Adobe Premier or VirtualDub before in my life, nor have I made an AMV or ever encoded a full DVD movie, and not only that, but I can't tell that the Inu Yasha episodes I have look great and 9 hours, 14 seconds worth of video - MORE than ANY video editor at a HIGH SCHOOL would EVER need, don't take up a gigabyte of space even. |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 207/1757 |
uh, and what makes you think that max, I did video editing last year, and hes right...your the one whos wrong. |
macks
Posts: 208/900 |
Tomguy, you obviously don't know anything about video editing. |
kitty
Posts: 1152/2449 |
Um, I don't know what kind of video editing requires that kind of damn space... Because 4 mins of raw video with raw audio is 2GB IIRC. If you have XViD compression (pretty much the best there is right now) you can have almost DVD-quality encodes that take up no more than 1.4GB (2 cd's) for the full movie! |
FreeDOS
Posts: 459/1657 |
Originally posted by Tomguy
Originally posted by ErkDog
that's fucking bullshit...
graphics design majors in college wouldn't need 6 GIGS of data...
This is true, but he's in a public school with computer-illiterate fucktards running the show. I REALLY want to know what the fuck you have that takes up that much space, Randy. Seriously.
Video editing would... . But seriously, school administrations are 95% of the time run by idiots who think the knowlege of a Start button is all they need. |
kitty
Posts: 1147/2449 |
Originally posted by ErkDog
that's fucking bullshit...
graphics design majors in college wouldn't need 6 GIGS of data...
This is true, but he's in a public school with computer-illiterate fucktards running the show. I REALLY want to know what the fuck you have that takes up that much space, Randy. Seriously. |
ErkDog
Posts: 563/982 |
okay so subract 2 grand...
still about 3 grand for the server alone....
much less someone to set it up and all the other computers to use it |
Sandy53215
Posts: 83/948 |
lol, Erk my school doesnt need 3 TERABYTES!!!! I said it needs about 1200 or 1300 gigs. |
ErkDog
Posts: 556/982 |
that's fucking bullshit...
graphics design majors in college wouldn't need 6 GIGS of data...
additonally..... it will cost alot more than 3 grand if you employ any kind of file sharing system that's worthwhile and secure on that kind of a scale.....
I mean you don't awnt a fileserver that looses data, guess waht ? that automatically implies Raid 5 ....
which requires at minimum 3 harddrives last I checked......
and if you need 3 TERABYTES of data... .it will take more on the order of about 20 200 Gig Harddrives to accomplish storage array of 3 TERABYTES
Those drives are about 180 a piece..... which is 3600 for the storage drives alone....
good luck finding a cheap Serial ATA Raid 5 Controller that will support 20 drives....
or finding one at all,
a quick check on dell shows a soloution for about 10 Grand... which being a school you MIGHT get for 6 grand.....
and something I could maybe build for about 5 grand.....
moving right along....
your school really doesn't need that....
the person that convinced them they did... is stupid.....
they shoudl take that pissy little 3 grand they THINK they are gonna get a file sharing network with... and buy footballs or something with it instead....
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