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Ailure
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I found the Redeads scary back then, but I quickly got used to them. I was scared more easily back then... 
I laughed when I saw the Redeads in Wind waker, they look so funny... but so freaky at the same time. >.>; |
Squash Monster
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Good point about it being a first boss there (he has the typically huge opening right after the chain attack...). Which makes one think... bosses that evil looking usually don't show up untill later in the game. I kinda like how that sounds for the rest of the game. As much as I'm against darkness just for darkness's sake, I like it when the forces of evil look the part.
So far it looks like he's got an attack with his chain and one with a big burst of fire. The first is blockable with the sheild. The later, however, looks a bit intense. I see three possibilities with that move... one is that it's possible to jump back out of its range, the second is that it's just for the boss's opening sequence, and the last possibility is that they brought back the Roc's feather. I suspect the first, but the third would be just plain amazing.
As for ReDeads, they looked like their huge heads would make them fall over. Perhaps it would appear better to me if they connected the head higher up, so the jaw hung down. That might make them look a bit too much like evil gorrillas, though. |
Fyxe
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I agree with you on most points, Squashy, although I actually think the ReDeads looked surprisingly creepy despite the cel-shading style. I never thought the 'generic zombie' look of the ReDeads in OoT was very scary at all, so I welcomed the change.
And I think horse-mounted combat has been pretty much confirmed.
I think the fire demon is meant to be orge-like. His design appears to be so he doesn't move fast but he attacks with his huge chain and using his fire attacks. I agree; fire demons that look nippy and 'fit' are cool, but it would amount to a completely different type of enemy.
And since I'm guessing that is the first boss (based on past experience of Zelda trailers and the fact that they're more likely to have finished the first boss first), I think a fast and really dangerous fire demon would be a bit much. |
Squash Monster
Posts: 100/677 |
The new game looks amazing.
In the video, I like that the entire thing looks like game footage (with the obvious exceptions appearing to be cutseens rather than video clips). I can't wait to try horse-mounted combat (like Fyxe, I think it's game footage). I like how they decided to make Link cute. The only thing in it that I don't like is the fire demon type thing. The effects and such are amazing, but the enemy itself looks unfit. I like my fire demons to look like they could cremate the hero even without their magical powers (for an example, see the Infernals from Warcraft 3).
To people arguing:
People who don't play games becouse they're "childish" should be stabbed.
People without any writing style who try to make long paragraphs should be stabbed.
People who write entire paragraphs in parenthesis should be stabbed.
People who think saying the same thing over and over again will sway people to their point should be stabbed.
People who insult people for liking/disliking a game should be stabbed. However, people who insult people for having stupid reasons to like/dislike a game are perfectly fine.
And lastly, as a response to people yelling about what Zelda game was best:
The first one was great, except for the stabbing. It's a shame they didn't come up with making Link swing his sword for a while yet.
The second one was cool (*ducks a tomato*). Play controll was lousy though; I like my play controll snappy and crisp, like in Conquest of the Crystal Palace (NES), Demon's Crest (SNES), and Wind Waker (GCN)
Link to the Past was spiffy.
Link's awakening is one of my favorites. Snappy play controll and the Roc's Feather. Yay.
Occerina of Time was alright. Some of the later levels annoyed me. No, I don't remember specifically why.
Majora's Mask was alright. There should've been more places to swim around in the Zora's Mask. I didn't replay it, so I'm not sure it could've been that great.
Wind Waker was ownage; but I've got three complaints. Barel-hiding sucks. There weren't enough good battles (A few battles with squads of Darknut difficulty foes that weren't all Darknuts would be perfect). And they managed to make Re-Deads look utterly stupid. |
Atma X
Posts: 187/801 |
(Alright, I lied. I posted again).
(sorry if some stuff is repeated a little, I had to go back and edit a lot of stuff)
That actually sounds like something that I'd reason with. I still like many Nintendo games, because Mario and games like it are classics that were fun and even goofy in their own way and entertaining. But I felt that a lot of the N64 games were more focused on being 3D rather than the gameplay (for a period of time, but not the whole time), some of the Game's story line and challenge weren't as great as the Snes's of the Nes's.
(it seemed like they a little spent too much time on making it 3D, and because of that, they didn't have enought time to make some corrections to the story, they also had a shortage of games for a while, and they were very focused on producing more games, rather than less games that were excellently thought out (they seemed to have planned out some very good games, but something seemed to have made them need to cut certain things out, which is a shame, but that seemed to be the only way to relase them in time). It kind of seemed like they had to cut out a few things that would have been really good because of a shortage of time. Making really good aspects to a game can be tough sometimes, especially when pressed for time like they were (at least for a short while when the N64 was still pretty new). |
Vinney
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Actually, just because a game looks like a child's game, doesn't mean that it is. There's quite a few puzzle games for any Nintendo system, and quite frankly, I prefer things that make me think and try over things that just look pretty.
I've always loved the Nintendo series, even when it's become totally whacked. But seriously, Wind Waker wasn't all that difficult, but it was hella fun. The first Zelda was just fun and new, and I still say it's one of my favorite games ever. It may not be pretty, or very adult like, but it doesn't matter. Graphics don't make the games, it's what's actually inside the game that really matters. I mean yeah, some games are hella pretty, but they can still really suck ass. Not to mention with more adult oriented games, the more everyone is going to attack video games for any thing bad that happens around children who play them. I love Nintendo, I like their adult and child oriented games. I am a devout fan to Nintendo, though I'm not a fanboy. I have lot's of faith in their ability, and I'm sure that they'll do what needs to be done. |
Atma X
Posts: 186/801 |
Originally posted by Ailure
Goldeneye is more challanging than Perfect dark. At least I heard that from people who have both games. 
Personally I like Majoras mask more than Ocarina of time. Mainly becuse it was little harder than Ocarina of time.
And everyone have diffrent tastes, becuse you hate a game dosen't mean that everyone else should hate it. ~_~
Why would you guys still be trying to talk to me when I said it was my last post? Are you looking for a response, or to make me see things your way? I'm not going to see anything anybody's way, so quit bothering me about it (your getting nowhere)
Ok, this is my last post, after this, I'm not even going to consider looking at this thread again (because I might get tempted to reply again).
Um, who said that I was trying to persuade anyone to think the way I do, it kind of seems like all of you are trying to make me agree with you (I don't care what you think, just let me have my own opinion without trying to tell me that I'm wrong, what is the point; anyway, I can't be wrong because it's an opinion, nor can I be right). As soon as I mention that I didn't like some previously made games, everyone starts trying to tell me that I'm wrong, so it really sounds like you guys are trying to persuade me to think your way (I never said you guys suck because you like them, or even directed it towards anyone, I simply just stated my opinion because I really liked the new Zelda screenshots over many of the other games that Nintendo has made in the past)
I think that there were a lot of games that were good on the SNES and NES, but when their sequals came out on the N64, I didn't feel that the games had the right kind of balance between a mature audience and a younger audience, it seemed to have dropped a bit towards the younger people. Yes, I did enjoy many of the games that were made on the N64, but I never play them anymore because they have a little too much of a childish aspect to them (there are others that aren't childish at all, but they are too short, so it makes them get boring fast. I also I'm talking about the game play level when I say that they are for younger audiences, I found that too many of the N64 games were easy to beat, games like Mario 64 for example, it was fun and I enjoyed playing it, but it was too easy, and collecting so many stars wasn't keeping very entertained. Mario 64 was fun for a while, but it's prequals were mcuh better).
Also, I think that Perfect Dark was a bad example, I mostly played it because it was good for Multi-Player, but I had to beat the Solo Missions to unlock many of the things for Multi-Player (and your right, the story on that game wasn't that great, but that's not what I really played it for). I also have played Golden Eye, I agree the story was better, but I felt that there was more stuff for Multi-Player in Pefect Dark (and the as I stated above, Multi-Player is what I mostly went for).
Another game that is good mostly for Multi-Player is Super Smash Bros. Playing the 1 player mode too many times gets very boring (It's the same thing over and over again).
Trashykins & Kirbynite: Why do you assume that I wouldn't play a game because I'm afraid of what other people will think. Where did you come up with that (of course, you must have been assuming without giving it any real thought about it ). I don't care what other people think at all, if I did at all for any reason, I would probably be sucking up to you guys to try to make sound like I was mistaken (oh, please don't make fun of me, you might make me cry  , , fuck off, I don't care what you think).
If I'm not interested in a game, it doesn't mean that I'm afraid of what other people will think (I clearly mean that I don't like it , is it that hard for you to comprehend what I'm saying, if it is, then you seriously should think about learning english some more, a lot more).
I mean exactly what I say.
Well, with that said, I'm acually leaving this thread now, so going don't bother posting anymore responses to me directly, because as I stated above, I'm not coming back to this thread to post anymore replies (nor am I coming back for any other reason), so you won't get a response back. Just talk among yourselves, quit trying to bother me, it's not working (you should probably just continue talking about the New Zelda Game, since that's what this Thread was created for to begin with). BTW: (sarcasticly) I'm so sorry for making fun of your favorite games, I didn't know that you all were such sensitive people, I didn't know that video games meant so much to you, I'm sorry that I made of your only life's purpose. Suck it up, stop crying over somebody not liking your favorite kind of games. |
Kirbynite
Posts: 211/1366 |
Originally posted by Trashykins
You care too much when you should just be playing the fucking games.
That's my philosophy on gaming.  Even if stuff bothers me, I'll still play the game. And I still manage to have fun.
Let's see.. what to start commenting on.. And excuse my ramblings  ;;;
I can't remember the difference in difficulties of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. I know that I've beaten Goldeneye, but I didn't beat the final level in Perfect Dark. No wait.. I did.. I just couldn't beat it at a higher difficulty... Well, anyway, I'm not the best FPS gamer. If you start giving me stuff that makes me feel more in my element, then maybe I could play better (Think that was Metroid Prime..)
I loved Majora's Mask. Though, I probably like it for the same reasons people hate it. I loved the concept of time. You get to see what people do on a daily basis. You witness life, and kinda interact with it. I also enjoyed the storyline, though I didn't care much for the fact that it was kinda.. mysterious-like and dark...
I don't see how hard it is to sneak by in a barrel by some pigs. Sure, it would've been great if you could do some kinda stealth kill, but that sneaking parts of the game shouldn't have taken that long. Could've killed a minute or two everytime you run into the sneaking parts. Or trying to figure out a way to take that fire snake on.. With some thinking, a plan could've been thought of. I don't see it as cheaply hard.
Then again, maybe I shouldn't be saying that kinda stuff.. I mean, I have been playing video games for almost two decades. And I don't mean casually playing games, like being dragged to play something. I'm talking about actually taking the time to kick the game's ass. Super Mario Bros. showed me the world of platforming. Rad Racer showed me how to race. Sonic the Hedgehog taught me how to be reckless but still be able to do good (to some extent ). Street Fighter II showed me to try to figure out all the moves with my character so that I'd be able to whomp the other guy. Super Mario 64 introduced me to the 3d world. Now, I can safely say that those games (when I first played them) were hard for me. But I was persistent enough to beat those games. And I played more games like them, and I started getting better and better in certain genres.
Persistence and patience... It helps keep a controller alive
Y'know, if I was still a little kid, I would've been very peeved if they started churning out a lot of games that are meant for mature audiences. "Link looks kinda realistic with beautiful scenery and graphics, with great gameplay to back it up, and I can't play it because Link is a sixteen year old?" "Wha? Mario's gunning down Bowser with Snifits, and there's blood all over? Another game I can't play...". If I was around ten, I'd be saying that stuff. If I was like... uh... six, I would just be sad because I can't play another game |
Ailure
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Goldeneye is more challanging than Perfect dark. At least I heard that from people who have both games.
Personally I like Majoras mask more than Ocarina of time. Mainly becuse it was little harder than Ocarina of time.
And everyone have diffrent tastes, becuse you hate a game dosen't mean that everyone else should hate it. ~_~ |
Fyxe
Posts: 195/1160 |
Originally posted by Atma X
I could diss on you back for not liking Perfect Dark (it wasn't like THE GREATEST GAME ever mad, but it was good for its time, especially since Nintendo was releasing stuff like Diddy Kong Racing, DK64, Banjo Kazooie (and its sequal)
Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong 64 and Banjo Kazooie were all made by Rare, the same team who made Perfect Dark.
Originally posted by Atma X
MM's main story was to collect as many masks as you can so you could stop the Evil Giant Moon from crashing into the Earth, now tell me that's not a childs game.
Have you even PLAYED Majora's Mask? That is possibly the worst description of the storyline I've ever heard. Do you know the intracacies of the plot? Do you know WHY Skull Kid wanted to destroy the world? Did you SEE the final boss? Did you understand what the Fierce Deity Mask was? Did you understand what Inside The Moon was meant to represent?
And I think less people would be inclined to find your views offensive if you didn't say things like this...
Originally posted by Atma X
The only people that I saw play Majora's Mask more than once or twice were my little brother's 7-10 year old friends.
And use that as meaning that 'oh my god, the only people who like this game must be children, because I've only seen kids play it!!'. What a pile of rubbish.
Majora's Mask was a much more difficult game than OoT too.
And no, Perfect Dark wasn't that hard.
What DOES count as a non-childish game? Perfect Dark? Perfect Dark has a dumb plot. Save the world from aliens. Resident Evil? Fight zombies. Wow, deep stuff. O.o'' So, they have blood. So what? My 10 year old cousin plays Perfect Dark, he's the only one I know who plays it (other than myself, and I play it less than him). OH MY GOD!! That must mean that it's a game for kids!!
Face it, virtually all video games are childish. Just play the freakin' games and enjoy them and stop thinking 'oh my god, if I play this game, I'll look like a little kid!!'.
Wake up call. You play video games, you're already considered a bit of a loser by alot of society. |
The Kins
Posts: 118/595 |
You care too much when you should just be playing the fucking games. |
Atma X
Posts: 185/801 |
Originally posted by EvillerLegion
Atma, the games that Nintendo makes are not for children, as Ailure stated...They are for all ages. Whereas games like GTA should be played by mature people...Games like Zelda can be played and enjoyed by all. Same goes for games like Megaman, which are challenging.
Oh, and if you say that Perfect Dark was challenging then...
YOU SUCK AT LIFE!
How do you suck at life. Start making more sense from now on.
Also, did you actually beat all of Perfect Agent mode and unlock all of the Cheats? Or did you just go through the easiest mode and decide to quit after that .
Also, I don't spend my waking hours playing shooting games so I'm not the best at them, and I'm not trying to be either.
I think the Game Cube was a big improvement over the N64, but I think that they've made some very impressive improvements since I saw screenshots of this new Zelda game that thre're working on. I don't what is the big deal is with you people, I'm not a big fan of the N64, so what, who fucking cares . Anyway, go whine to someone else, cause I really don't fucking care. Nobody is ever going to like everything that you do (I'm sure there's plenty of things I like that you hate).
I could diss on you back for not liking Perfect Dark (it wasn't like THE GREATEST GAME ever made, but it was good for its time, especially since Nintendo was releasing stuff like Diddy Kong Racing, DK64, Banjo Kazooie (and its sequal), MegaMan 64 (AKA MM Legends, it wasn't childish, but it wasn't very impressive either, but the rest of the MegaMan games are really good), Star Fox 64 (the one for the SNES was really good), Toy Story 2 (hmm, I really wonder about this one , that should be too obvious), Wargods (it wasn't childish, but it still sucked), Hot Wheels: Turbo Racing (take a wild guess ,and no, I never bothered to even try it), Hey You, Pikachu! (another Pok |
HyperLamer
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Originally posted by Atma X
Hey, finally a Nintendo game that's not made for children, and it's about damm time. Ever since the N64, most of the games have been made for the younger mind. Which is fine to have some games made for children, but not 90% of them.
I agree they could use more games like GTA, but the games they have now are fine for all ages. I'd just like to see more bullets flying and heads exploding.
OoT was probably the best game ever, even if it was really easy (and that's just relative to the rest of the Zelda games, there are certainly some hard parts to it). I couldn't stand WW, the levels were just annoying. Hard is good but there's fun hard and frustrating hard. Having to figure out a way to reach something or open a door is fun. Waiting inside a barrel for ages to sneak by a guard or trying to throw a pot full of water at some fire snake thing only for it to fall into the lava and come back to life is just very, very frustrating. (I managed to destroy a Wavebird on that one.  ) Not to mention, this is the first two levels.
Long story short if this game's like OoT, I'm getting it. |
DarkSlaya
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Originally posted by EvillerLegion
Oh, and if you say that Perfect Dark was challenging then...
YOU SUCK AT LIFE!
Hehe... so damn true. *agrees* |
alte Hexe
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Atma, the games that Nintendo makes are not for children, as Ailure stated...They are for all ages. Whereas games like GTA should be played by mature people...Games like Zelda can be played and enjoyed by all. Same goes for games like Megaman, which are challenging.
Oh, and if you say that Perfect Dark was challenging then...
YOU SUCK AT LIFE! |
Darth Coby
Posts: 541/1371 |
Damn, for some reason I can't see any images when I use Quicktime, I just reinstalled it, even had to install that bloody iTunes, but still no image.  Isn't there an Avi version of WMV version of it? |
Atma X
Posts: 184/801 |
Originally posted by Ailure
I rather say all ages than Children... 
Honestly, there is somewhat mature games that Nintendo also have made. Majoras mask had quite a high age rating for a zelda game... (of course it did, because somebody must have thought it was a good game and in an age range for older people because Nintendo decided to create it in the first place, so obviously somebody must have thought it was good [and they must have been on a lot of crack]) Everyone I know that was about 14 and up said it sucked, and I definatly agree with them
Um, right, then I guess your telling me that those are the kinds of games you enjoy playing a lot (I would say something else, but I don't go out looking for people to flame. Also Cymoro, you need to calm down there, you don't need to throw a fit just because I don't like your favorite games, I'm only stating my opinion). The only people that I saw play Majora's Mask more than once or twice were my little brother's 7-10 year old friends.
(I played through the game once, and after that I messed around with some GS codes, but that's about it)
I'm not literaly saying that every game Nintendo has made since the N64 were made for children (maybe 90% was too much of an exaggeration), I'm just saying that there was a large increase in them (a little too many), and to be honest, I was quite dissapointed with Zelda OOT and Majora's Mask (not nearly as much with OOT as MM). Yes, they were fun to play a couple times, but I really don't think the story plot was very good (OOT's plot was alright, but MM's sucked).
MM's main story was to collect as many masks as you can so you could stop the Evil Giant Moon from crashing into the Earth, now tell me that's not a childs game. OOT was alright, but the early screenshots of it made it look like it was going to be a lot better.
Another game that really sucked was DK64, ( if you say that game was good, then I'll have to reach through the screen and slap you, ... if I could )
I enjoyed playing Perfect Dark, that was of Nintendo's better games, and was very challenging.
Jarukoth:
As far as Resident Evil goes, I've only played it a couple of times and it didn't really catch my interest, and I know it was quite the opposite childs game, but neither was it that fun to play, at least in my opinion. Another thing that drew my attention away from it was that a lot of the wierd kids at my school were (the dumbasses at the school) always obsessing about, so ... I hardly gave it a chance (a lot of these people would always obsess over the stupidest games just because it had blood and because you could kill people, so it was hard to tell what was actually a good game or not when it envolved an extensive amount of killing ... without actually playing it for yourself). I did mention that I had played it a couple of times, but I had only played it for maybe a half an hour to an hour while at friends house many years ago. |
Zzanitari
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OMG.....OMG.....OMG......That movie was so awsome that I almost cried!!!!
I can't wait till this comes out! I'm more excited to play this than to play Metroid Prime 2!! |
Kefka
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That video kicks ass Ailure. I might have to get a Gamecube or something now for this alone |
Ailure
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enjoy 
Nintendo's offical site have alot of info so check it out, and I wouldn't be surprised if the fansites had even more info...
Any good zelda site? I had one but it's down since 2 years.  |
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