Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - General Gaming - Dr. Robotnik -> Eggman
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Someguy
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The Kintobor or whatever stuff is something made up by the comics, so you can't apply them to the games. If I remember right, in Sonic Adventure his name is Ivo Robotnik, or just plain Robotnik, as people call him, but people like Sonic call him Eggman to get him mad. For some reason he picked up the name, possibly because it went well with his Egg name themed things like Eggmobile, and it was catchy for his Eggman Empire thing, though in SA he wanted to simply make Station Square into Robotnikland. |
Destiny Smasher
Posts: 179/216 |
Yes, yes, perfect.
Peach Toadstool.
Bowser...er...Koopa...
In Japan, Bowser has always been Koopa. Peach has always been Peach. And Robotnik has always been Eggman.
I guess they realized how dumb they were in changing their names.
But Mega Man? Sorry, but Rockman just doesn't have the same tone to it, ya know?
As far as Eggman goes, it was implied that Sonic picked on him about it, and so he decided to make it his nickname. His last name IS still Robotnik, it's just that he likes to call himself Eggman.
I mean, honestly, Eggman sounds a lot more teasing, ya know?
You have fallen to the hands of EGGMAN!! GWAHAHA!!
Insert Robotnik, and it doesn't sound as taunting. |
Abnormal Freak
Posts: 67/364 |
Mega Man totally destroys the entire pun cycle of Rock, Roll, Forte, Treble, and so on.
Except that they still call Mega Man by the name of Rock (or so I recall from MM1, I think), and I think Bass is a cooler name than Forte. Goes along with Treble better.
About Peach, in the beginning of Super Mario 64, she writes that letter and it says something like, "Signed, Princess Toadstool. -Peach" So, Peach is like...her nickname or real name. Princess Peach Toadstool. I think it makes perfect sense and it kicks ass, and so does Bowser, King of the Koopas, King Koopa, Bowser Koopa, whatever. |
Skreename
Posts: 13/107 |
As far as I know, in Japan, Eggman never had the whole accident dealy. He was just always... Unexplained. If you follow the Adventure games, his name never changed... He was always (something) Robotnik, like his grandfather. His motives... Revenge, perhaps for his grandfather's death?
(Poor Robotnik/Eggman... Getting caught up in all of these attempts to destroy the world, when all he wants is to rule it... Just look at Chaos, Shadow, and Gizoid, from Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, and Sonic Battle, respectively) |
Fyxe
Posts: 123/1160 |
That was actually the story behind him, at least in the West. It was repeated in this official Sonic guidebook thingie I still have. It also explains the creation of the rings that litter the levels (they were used in the machine holding the Chaos Emeralds), the idea behind the Chaos Emeralds (Kintobor was trying to force evil into the emeralds, or something similar...), the reason Robotnik is Eggman (the accident involving a rotten egg), and the reason there are computer monitors lying around Mobius (remote links to his hidden lab, or something).
I am not nearly as well versed in Sonic history as Mario history though, so I could not comment on the name change.
However, I do know that while Peach was never meant to be called Toadstool, they did keep Toadstool as her second name (so she's Princess Peach Toadstool). Which was nice of them. Bowser is Bowser and always has been Bowser in the West, although in the cartoons he was (King) Bowser Koopa. You can easily call him King Koopa and people would know what it meant, but it seems Miyamoto liked the US name Bowser and stuck with it. Glad he did, Bowser is just an awesome name for him.
The Koopa Kids had 'Koopa' added onto their names for the Western release, suggesting that Bowser's second name is in fact, Koopa. Bowser Koopa.
I'm guessing Cymoro has the name right. Hell, he may of been Ivo Kintobor in Japan too, somehow I don't think he was called Namgge.
There's not enough Sonic information on the net. |
Imajin
Posts: 258/452 |
Sonic "the" Hedgehog 
The UK Sonic Comic claimed the Robotnik was Kintobor once and got crossed with a rotten egg in a freak labe xperiment invoolving a chaos emerald...  |
Drag
Posts: 118/254 |
Originally posted by Cymoro
Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik
Miles "Tails" Prower
Robo-butt? Heh, just call him Ro-butt-nic.
...what's Sonic's name? Sonic "Sonic" Sonic? |
Mel
Posts: 246/991 |
I always liked how Sonic called him "Robo-butt" or something like that in the comics. |
JDavis
Posts: 40/815 |
Even before bringing the "Eggman" name over, they acknowledged his similarity to an egg. There was an episode of "The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" (note: The more kiddy of the Sonic cartoons) where Robotnik imprisoned a comic artist for making fun of Robotnik with a Humpty-Dumpty story thing. |
Uncle Elmo
Posts: 315/1062 |
In the original European Sonic manual, it refers to Robotnik as "Eggman", I... think.
However, the reason for the change was because in Japan, his name was Eggman, and that Robotnik was an American invention. When Sonic Adventure was written Sonic began calling him Eggman, to bring it in line with Japan (like the numbering of the FF games, Technically speaking FF7 shoudl be FF4).
I tend to overlook it by assuming that "Eggman" is an insult of Sonic's. |
Skreename
Posts: 11/107 |
Technically, they took both the American and Japanese names and gave them to the other side, leaving the US with Robotnik->Eggman, and Japan to Eggman->Robotnik. (Take note of the fact that the only of the old games to actually have text identifying Robotnik is Spinball. All of the others identify him as Eggman, or not at all.)
Robotnik does sound cooler than Eggman, though. |
Ran-chan
Posts: 660/12781 |
Hmm...why did they change his name to Dr. Robotnik, then? Oh well, i think Dr. Robotnik sounds better. 
I wanna pucnh the fool who changed the name...
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Ailure
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I swear that he was called Eggman in Europe, back in the days.  |
NSNick
Posts: 268/3875 |
Nope, his name was Robotnik in the old cartoon, too. And in the comics. |
cpubasic13
Posts: 269/1346 |
They shouldn't have. I think they changed it for the show on TV. Eggman is a stupid name if you ask me... Robotnik is a whole lot better. It shows that he uses robots. |
Kefka
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I dunno why they changed it, but they SHOULDN'T HAVE DAMMIT!
Robotnik sounds SO MUCH FUCKIN COOLER than Eggman.  |
Colin
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I go with Cymoro's explanation. 
It's not a huge deal... they probably just wanted to have parity.
(Wouldn't renaming Princess Toadstool to "Peach" be the same thing?) |
Cymoro
Posts: 340/2216 |
Japan == Eggman (Obviously, because he looked like an egg in Sonic 1)
USA == Robotnik (To apeal to gamers here, since no one wanted to fight a person call Dr. Eggman)
His true full name is Dr. Ivo Robotnik. The Eggman part, I think, acts like this:
Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik
And there you have it. |
Imajin
Posts: 256/452 |
When the adventure series came out, the translators used Eggman instead of Robotnik, and when they learned he had been called Robotnik before, they made up the "Eggman Robotnik" thing |
alte Hexe
Posts: 557/5458 |
Dr. Robotnik is Eggman Robotnik. They just screwed around with the name from the series to the Adventure games. |
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