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Jill
Posts: 130/528 |
Originally posted by Angel
Originally posted by VAL4BAN
Maybe everyone's scoring higher than you because maybe, just maybe, you're horrible at the game?
Most of the time thats the reason, I hate when people accuse me of hacking in CS. Its a compliment yes, but then they try to votekick you. Its funnier when the owner of the server thinks hes the bomb and loses hard and bans you.
That's why you play on dedicated quality servers. Except for them few times when people from boards want to play with you  . |
Seph2k4
Posts: 102/619 |
Originally posted by VAL4BAN
Maybe everyone's scoring higher than you because maybe, just maybe, you're horrible at the game?
Guys!
Enough with the downplaying of this thread already. It's simply not a matter of skill, nor a laughing matter in any which case like some of you think it is. The reason I think they are cheating is because they finish games with impossible-to-achieve scores. If you see someone finish a round with a score of 80 or so in a game, chances are they problably happened to bring their GS with them online. It's fair logic. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you can't score any higher than 4, maybe 5 if you're lucky, kills in one round in SOCOM with full 8 players on both sides without bringing cheats into the game such as team kills positive, infinite health, infinite ammo, and maybe no vote off if people want you kicked out REAL quick, etc. I don't say everyone who scores higher than me cheats. That's just ludicy. I say the people I've seen who kill everyone on our team and NOT getting in the negatives in score (which is obviously cheating), get a redicilous score count of 125-256 (can't get much more obvious than that), run through walls and shoot people from the inside (glitching), rapid fire with a pistol, etc, fit under my criteria for "cheating".  |
Ailure
Posts: 1247/11162 |
Originally posted by VAL4BAN
Maybe everyone's scoring higher than you because maybe, just maybe, you're horrible at the game?
Or everyone else it better than you.
Or the mulitplayer skills aren't high enough, honestly the AI monsters in a game works diffrent that charachters controlled by an human. Someone who have " |
Colin
Posts: 1104/11302 |
Yeah, but I guess people need to save face... They can't accept the fact that someone's better than them, so they brand the player as a cheater and see if anyone else joins in for chuckles. |
Angel
Posts: 203/573 |
Originally posted by VAL4BAN
Maybe everyone's scoring higher than you because maybe, just maybe, you're horrible at the game?
Most of the time thats the reason, I hate when people accuse me of hacking in CS. Its a compliment yes, but then they try to votekick you. Its funnier when the owner of the server thinks hes the bomb and loses hard and bans you. |
Valcion
Posts: 167/1139 |
Maybe everyone's scoring higher than you because maybe, just maybe, you're horrible at the game?
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Colin
Posts: 1073/11302 |
That's not so much cheating in a hacking sense - it's just using deception to trick players. It's still a terrible habit. 
I have no problem with cheating offline as long as you've beaten the game. As far as online goes... Come on, show some class. |
cpubasic13
Posts: 249/1346 |
This is the reason I stopped playing Starcraft. I joined one game. They then loaded it up. Then when they were in the game, they said "Press Alt + X 2 times to see the whole map." Everyone else left. Why? Because when you do that, it exits Starcraft! Not everyone memorizes the hot keys!
Anyway, cheating is fun for some games, but not all games or online games. Like Seph2k4 said, GTA is a perfect example where cheats are fun. I would also use cheats in SSBM to play VS. on some target practice level. Other than that, cheating is wrong.
My brother also cheats a lot. He puts in his Codebreaker (or used to, he plays his X-Box a lot) into the Playstation, adds cheats, then puts in Final Fantasy 8. He claims to have beaten the game, but no. He just cheated. |
Kasumi-Astra
Posts: 282/1867 |
Seph: You did not give one example of cheating in your original post, you only named a game.
Cheaters are stupid, though. But you can't do much about them. Nothing is cheatproof. Nothing at all.
Just stick to the servers you like and always have a friend on hand to kick the cheaters. |
macks
Posts: 161/900 |
Since I am a pretty good Counter-Strike played I've had my fair share of cheating accusations. Now I only play on my clan server and a few other servers where people know who I am, so no problem with that anymore 
And yes, cheaters are very annoying. And teamkillers even more so. Though as some other people have said, don't accuse people of cheating all the time. Hearing people say "omgomg a cheatar" every time they die gets very annoying after a while |
Stasis
Posts: 21/51 |
Originally posted by Ailure
There is nice anti-cheat systems for some of the FPS, like punkbuster.
I hate Punkbuster. It causes terrible lag and doesn't let me play at the same time as my brother because it doesn't allow duplicate CD keys. 
You say people take multiple headshots and live? Most likely you're either missing or it's lagging.
On Urban Terror, my brother has gotten some insane score and I know for a fact that he doesn't cheat. He had something like 10 deaths and 120 kills. Everybody used to accuse him of cheating, but he doesn't, and there are people that are FAR better than him.
Originally posted by Seph2k4
When someone has a score of 256 in a game (preferably in a round), the other player is [i[obviously cheating
Yes, obviously.</sarcasm>
Okay, so I've never played SOCOM online, but I'm sure this all still applies. Never accuse anybody of cheating unless you have solid proof.
The Kins
Posts: 92/595 |
Originally posted by knuck
And about cheaters don't have friends, i have this to say to you. You don't know them. Don't come all "OFMG THEY R GUEY!111"
OK, fess up. |
Havoks
Posts: 34/121 |
who cares whether you're popular online |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 92/1757 |
I hate it very much when people cheat on SOCOM, and then they kill their team mates and the other team, what I have heard though, is you cant cheat on socom 2 online, so thats why im gonna buy it sometime. but cheaters online MAKE me SICK |
Seph2k4
Posts: 92/619 |
Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra
Hang on a minute. You haven't given one example of how someone has cheated against you, and you say it happens that often?
One of my friends is a regular Counterstrike player and he is, in my opinion, extremely good.
He doesn't ceat at all, yet he gets accused of it on numerous servers because they think he's cheating.
The complaints are getting ridiculous. I don't even play Counterstrike, yet I've been put off by the ammount of n00bs that play it.
You have to admit that sometimes when people walk onto a server and headshot all players on the opposing team, sometimes they are that good.
I have given an example. That is SOCOM. Half the time, I run into Friendly Fire games and it is jam packed with either cheaters and/or team killers (which are WORSE than cheaters, actually). I've seen people run through walls and kill people from inside, kill people on both sides while being virtually invisible, and adding to their score while doing it (instead of hurting their score like it should), take repeated head shots without dying ONCE, get an impossible number of kills in a round/game of 12-256 roughly, hell, sometimes even faking their own death (as in getting back up after being dead).
I'm not saying ALL people with really high scores/stats are cheaters. Sometimes they really are that good, and sometimes they really aren't very good at all and needed a little "help" (catch my drift?). Often times, you can tell by their score in a game that they are playing with certain cheats/codes on, like infinite health, infinite ammo, no ban/vote off, and the like. When someone has a score of 256 in a game (preferably in a round), the other player is [i[obviously cheating, and believe me when I say it's definately happened before.
And Knuck, I'm sorry bro, but you just come in and look at me wrong. Well known fact that cheaters don't have many friends. Noone likes a cheater, and noone wants to be around one (preferably playing with one rather than just plain being around one). Cheaters are game-killers, runing the games we play for everyone around him. I'm sure if a cheater joined your game and started killing YOU and every other teammate every round, that you wouldn't much like him, now would you? It's more than just a blatant assumption. It's real logic that cheaters are never very popular online. You'll see what I mean when you start getting owned online by a "one biLlIon Gazillionz faffillionsf shabedelu-le-millionez" score-player just as I, and many, MANY others, did.*sigh* Cheaters never prosper. |
Kasumi-Astra
Posts: 281/1867 |
Hang on a minute. You haven't given one example of how someone has cheated against you, and you say it happens that often?
One of my friends is a regular Counterstrike player and he is, in my opinion, extremely good.
He doesn't ceat at all, yet he gets accused of it on numerous servers because they think he's cheating.
The complaints are getting ridiculous. I don't even play Counterstrike, yet I've been put off by the ammount of n00bs that play it.
You have to admit that sometimes when people walk onto a server and headshot all players on the opposing team, sometimes they are that good. |
Ailure
Posts: 1209/11162 |
There is nice anti-cheat systems for some of the FPS, like punkbuster.
But many games lacks anti-cheat system, or the anti-cheat system isn't good enough.
I remember when we did RAM hacking for getting aduka they day before it was released, we were somewhat succeful.  (that was before they added the anti-cheat thing...)
I have no idea why it is fun with cheating, I usually try cheats once or twice in single player. Cheat in multiplayer is an sin.
And you feel more proud when you win without cheats. |
Silvershield
Posts: 94/345 |
I don't have much experience with online games aside from the well-policed, high profile MMORPGs like EverQuest and Dark Age of Camelot. However, I'm both ashamed and angry to report that EverQuest has seen more and more hacks in recent times. Especially prevalent are currency duplication and the always annoying macros. Sony Online Entertainment is incredibly strict with known cheaters, but some people out there are pretty darn clever and have been getting away with it for years.
The problem with things like plat duping in MMORPGs is that, if your gaming experience is being disrupted, you can't just log off and go to a different server. You character exists on one server, and that is where you stay (unless you fork over ~$75 - no thank you). EverQuest, for example, has a surprisingly complex economy, and a mass influx of platinum that cannot be allowed for by game developers makes prices shoot skyhigh; the average, "middle class" player, who could previously afford a nice item or two after some reasonable saving, suddenly finds himself with 5,000 platinum in a market where average gear for his level goes for double that. It's really frustrating. |
The Guru of Furu
Posts: 45/240 |
Yeah, there's never going to be a way to get around stuff like that, but it's always fun to mess with the cheaters. I don't play many online games but when I play vs games with my friends and they cheat it's kinda fun to find a way to get around their cheats through the game. And Knuck, i like that pic. |
knuck
Posts: 220/1818 |
Oh, really? You don't like cheaters? Too bad that you'll have to deal with them.
Gunbound added a anti-hacking/cheating thing and...guess what? People was cheating in one of the last events! 
Cheaters will never stop. DEAL with them.
And about cheaters don't have friends, i have this to say to you. You don't know them. Don't come all "OFMG THEY R GUEY!111" |
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