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orochi
Posts: 6/7 |
someone before said that "there is only a few ways to make FTP Clients and stuff"
im going to use PHP as an example here
there is only ONE way to connect to FTP with php... why? because php developers dident think 20 different ways to connect is worth having.
its not what the program IS, its what the program can DO!
Sure, i can connect to ftp... .anyone can.... question is, can you display it? and HOW would you display it? what other features would you have to stand apart from other ftp clients?
This is what copyrighting your stuff is. So others cannot steal YOUR Code, and fuse it with there own, but, if they can, create their OWN code similar to yours.
And i would also like to point out, in most countries in the world, there is something called the intellectual license, or something like that, where you OWN what you have created, and therefore dont have to go to great lengths to copyright it, though, if you plan on your family or estate inheriting it after your death, then yes, copyrighting is best |
HyperLamer
Posts: 7245/8210 |
Not trying to argue, but I thought I\'d mention that a few computer stores do sell systems with Linux pre-installed. It\'s rare, though, since Microsoft won\'t let them sell Windows if they do. 
But of course, the point remains - until most computer stores sell it pre-installed (which won\'t happen unless it gets a huge popularity boost) and it becomes a lot easier to use and more supported. |
Crim~
Posts: 38/46 |
Originally posted by Jaguarstrike
Can you copyright a number?
The answer should most definatley be no, i mean, its a number, and all numbers have been around for eternity, right?
If you think about it, an computer file is a long string or 1\\\'s and 0\\\'s, correct?
A long string of ones and zeros is nothing but a binary, or base two number with a multitude of digits, and this number can be converted into a decimal, or base ten number.
How can you copyright a number?
Dont ask me, ask the ones who allow it.
Numbers haven\'t been around for eternity, they\'re a concept of quantity and units that were made by humans(Just like letters, words, etc).
With that logic, one couldn\'t copyright a brand because it is made of a sequence letters.
Opensource fanboys and knucklogix is getting old.
I\'m sure over 95%(If not more) of PC users use Windows as their Operating system, Linux won\'t ever be used widely(or, by your average computer user) until it\'s extremely newbie friendly, supported by 90% of software, and comes on their harddrive when they buy a computer at Best Buy, Frys, etc. |
knuck
Posts: 1583/1818 |
Originally posted by windwaker
It\\\\\\\'s still better than microsoft. =D
Lies.
Originally posted by windwaker
You have no argument.
Coming from a Linux supporter. 
Originally posted by windwaker
Die now, and stop increasing your postcount through empty headed flames.
Funny for you to say that. ¬_¬
Originally posted by windwaker
I must be the only person who thinks ErkDog isn\\\\\\\'t saying use LunarPages. 
You\\\\\\\'re registered on: 06-28-05.
You have no clue what he\\\\\\\'s talking about.
Actually, he knows more than you shits from #rom-hacking.
gtfo |
windwaker
Posts: 1783/1797 |
Originally posted by Thayer
Originally posted by Lenophis
That couldn't be a more trolling statement unless you were wearing a troll costume...  knuck, we know you hate Linux, about as much as Tomguy hating Xkeeper, or Erk telling everybody to use LunarPages because it's cost effective. Put a freaking sock in it already.
Anyway, I know the benefits of open source, but they only work, when there is a body of users who well, work on it. 
It's still better than microsoft. =D You have no argument. Die now, and stop increasing your postcount through empty headed flames.
I must be the only person who thinks ErkDog isn't saying use LunarPages.
You're registered on: 06-28-05.
You have no clue what he's talking about.
Open source is not inherently better.
True, however, practically it certainly is. |
Ramsus
Posts: 162/162 |
Open source is not inherently better. Good software is written by good (experienced) programmers who have some interest in what they're writing. Better software is written by good programmers working who also happen to be working in comfortable environment that suits their coding style.
Licensing is a minor aspect. |
Thayer
Posts: 846/988 |
Originally posted by Lenophis
That couldn't be a more trolling statement unless you were wearing a troll costume... knuck, we know you hate Linux, about as much as Tomguy hating Xkeeper, or Erk telling everybody to use LunarPages because it's cost effective. Put a freaking sock in it already.
I must be the only person who thinks ErkDog isn't saying use LunarPages.
Anyway, I know the benefits of open source, but they only work, when there is a body of users who well, work on it. |
Lenophis
Posts: 753/830 |
Originally posted by knuck
Open source is communism.
Communism is Linux.
Linux != good.
windwaker fails. 
That couldn't be a more trolling statement unless you were wearing a troll costume... knuck, we know you hate Linux, about as much as Tomguy hating Xkeeper, or Erk telling everybody to use LunarPages because it's cost effective. Put a freaking sock in it already.
And where does the Linux is Communism anology come from? You get more confusing as the days pass....
This rediculous topic fails horse... I dare anybody to try and figure that out, because I can't. |
windwaker
Posts: 1781/1797 |
The linux kernel is great if you know how to read english text, and know basic unix command line terms.
Sorry. |
knuck
Posts: 1581/1818 |
Open source is communism.
Communism is Linux.
Linux != good.
windwaker fails. |
windwaker
Posts: 1780/1797 |
Originally posted by dan
Originally posted by Thayer
Acmlmboard has no bugs or exploits! None whatsoever! Opensource is perfect
AcmlmBoard isn't truly open source.
Indeed. If it was, there would be like, very few exploits, unless the board owners wouldn't use the inevitable patches.
You see, open source -IS- better. No matter what, bugs are going to come out. Sure, it's harder to reverse engineer something, but patches for open source software comes out before they're exploited. It's common for things such as wordpress that the people who find the exploits create patches themselves, and submit them to wordpress. |
Mega-Dog
Posts: 98/139 |
Originally posted by Thayer
Please explain. The source code for Acmlmboard is available for download for anyone, note the FAQ. And there is a body of users who are modifying it outside of the original staff.
It is open Source, but it is full of bugs. Also most versions are not Open Source... |
Thayer
Posts: 827/988 |
Please explain. The source code for Acmlmboard is available for download for anyone, note the FAQ. And there is a body of users who are modifying it outside of the original staff. |
dan
Posts: 742/782 |
Originally posted by Thayer
Acmlmboard has no bugs or exploits! None whatsoever! Opensource is perfect
AcmlmBoard isn't truly open source. |
Mega-Dog
Posts: 96/139 |
OK! You cannot Copyright or put a Trademark on a number. I found this out when the 586's came out. That is why they switched to Pentium so that way it can be TMed.
You can obtain a Copyright on programs and such. You gota get the fourms from the Copyright office and pay for them. Back when I got DogSoft's it cost me $20 and now my programs can be copyrighted for my life + 50 years if I remember right. |
Thayer
Posts: 777/988 |
Conclusion: Open source isn't always better. |
HyperLamer
Posts: 7161/8210 |
Open source only works if it's popular. The idea is that there will be more people finding the exploits and fixing/reporting them than people finding them and abusing them. Clearly not the case here, which has a lot to do with the small userbase. Most people who find exploits aren't even using it themselves. Also, it tends to take the admins quite a while to fix an exploit around here sometimes.
Though most exploit abuse has been done by Xk and that one guy who was trying to frame Tamarin. |
Thayer
Posts: 769/988 |
Acmlmboard has no bugs or exploits! None whatsoever! Opensource is perfect |
knuck
Posts: 1573/1818 |
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
Or you could buy programs that are closed source, and become vulnerable to all the holes the developers were too lazy to fix... there's a tradeoff. If an opensource community is active, they can usually spot exploits and patch them before too long.
Yeah because any closed source software is full of bugs and ohexploitable. srsly
gb2/linux |
HyperLamer
Posts: 7103/8210 |
This argument is flawed. If you treat all the bits in a file as one single number, then just by changing one bit, you've created an entirely different number and thus the copyright does not apply, even if the output is exactly the same. It is in fact the output that's copyrighted. If you take an MP3 and convert it to an OGG, the file is completely different but the output is still the same, and thus the copyright still applies. |
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