Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - World Affairs / Debate - Minimum age for consensual sex
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geeogree
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OMFG!!!!!
so some of you think that driving is less responsibility than having sex?
wow, reality check for some of you when something goes bad |
Snika
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I wasn't saying they went hand in hand. I was just using it as an example. It put things in perspective. You need a licensed driver to drive when you are 14. That shows that 14 year olds are not independant or responsible yet. Why should they be able to have sex and possibly have a child when they'd have to rely on an adult? |
Danielle
Posts: 3268/3359 |
Originally posted by Snika
Fourteen just seems to young. You can get laid before you can even drive without an adult in the car?
Because those two things go hand in hand. Yes, I see your logic. |
Snika
Posts: 900/916 |
Sixteen is what I voted for.
Fourteen just seems to young. You can get laid before you can even drive without an adult in the car? |
Googie
Posts: 618/624 |
I would go for 16, since females mature faster than us fellas. But then again my culture allows us to date females that are 16 years old, in the Dominican Republic and Puerto rico.
But 16 years old is a good enough age imo. *votes* |
Shane -26-
Posts: 224/239 |
I picked 18. It's 16 for boys and 17 for girls over here. The reason I picked 18 is because some teenage girls at around 14 and 15 end up getting pregnant because of it and that just sucks for both her and the unborn child. You're pretty much matured enough at 17 or 18.
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Thayer
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It took you twenty days to come up with that?  |
knuck
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
windwaker
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Originally posted by Thayer
Originally posted by windwaker
Originally posted by Thayer
Originally posted by windwaker
Uh. You just said dickwad. You have no authority to call someone immature. D; Honestly, are you some 30 year old who was the only one in high school that didn't get laid? That's really what it sounds like. XD
Until this post, this thread was actually a fine discussion. gtfo
19 and still not laid, eh?
I hate to point out more obvious irony, but the discussion was fine until you said that people only get laid 18 or younger so they can brag about it. And they you said dickwad, in which case I replied, and you flamed me in html comments.
Mature. XD
gtfo 
Acronyms --> fail.
You --> acronymns --> fail.
You --> fail. |
blackhole89
Posts: 934/971 |
I am missing the "no consensual sex at all allowed" option. 
Seriously though, I voted no minimum age. That doesn't mean I am a rapist like knuck or sympathize with this kind in a (in fact, I would probably be for the introduction of a 4 years "share limit" (lol RO) for <18 year olds if I really cared about the topic. I think this is a subject every person should be given the opportunity to decide on his own no matter of age or legal situation (in fact, most industrialized countries have very invasive parents-over-children rights nowadays). Whether mature or not, I believe even a 10 years old is capable of understanding the possible consequences of a sexual act, and a younger person hardly will even consider it.
Minimum age 18 sure witnesses of religious extremism.  |
Thayer
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Originally posted by windwaker
Originally posted by Thayer
Originally posted by windwaker
Uh. You just said dickwad. You have no authority to call someone immature. D; Honestly, are you some 30 year old who was the only one in high school that didn't get laid? That's really what it sounds like. XD
Until this post, this thread was actually a fine discussion. gtfo
19 and still not laid, eh?
I hate to point out more obvious irony, but the discussion was fine until you said that people only get laid 18 or younger so they can brag about it. And they you said dickwad, in which case I replied, and you flamed me in html comments.
Mature. XD
gtfo |
knuck
Posts: 1601/1818 |
I'm 16.
And I don't really know/care. I wouldn't do it. |
windwaker
Posts: 1792/1797 |
But you're only 15, how could it be illegal? |
knuck
Posts: 1600/1818 |
I don't think we have a statuory rape law here, but sexing children still isn't allowed.
I wouldn't try anyway. |
Zer0wned
Posts: 178/181 |
Originally posted by knuck
5~12
Holy schnikies! Well, good thing you're in Brazil, eh? |
knuck
Posts: 1599/1818 |
Originally posted by Zer0wned
And uh, I had no idea that knuck was from brazil, nor that his age was 15. That changes things a lot, < j/k level=harmless> but now I'm just gonna laugh just at him as I would when I was 15, finding out that one of my friends of the same age got desperate and dated an 11 year old. < /jk> But seriously though, what is your age range, Knuck? We talking budding stage, or like, "I picked my girlfriend up from kindergarten,"?
5~12 |
Zer0wned
Posts: 175/181 |
Actually grey, I'm a little too aware of the attraction to those that are... a little too young in society's eyes. You see, 1 1/2 years ago, I realized that the age of the girls I was being attracted to wasn't exactly growing with my age. So I was faced with the decision as to whether or not I would embrace this attraction, or attempt to supress, deter, or rid myself of this potentially dangerous attraction.
Considering the possible repurcussions (not just the legal ones, surprisingly), I decided I'd talk myself out of it.
I'll admit, I'm still slightly attracted, that I'm okay with, acting upon those impulses is a little different, that I will not do. Let's just ignore my first post, I was tired and didn't really put much effort into that. Not to mention when I think pedophilia, I'm thinking the extremes. I mean pre-pubescent, not even two digits (aka age < 10). I figure after about 12 years old, it's society's call as far as I'm concerned. As for American law, it seems a bit ridiculous to me that there should be absolutely no show of dissapproval towards teenage pregnancy, which parents and the government should have some (despite how limited) right to protect themselves from, seeing as how it's most likely they'll have to care for the result.
Notice that I'm not so much against the relationship, as I am against the possible risks involved. Namely the fiscal (under 18) and physical risks (puberty to ~14). In different countries, the legal working ages and views on women are different, and accordingly, as are the laws on sexual consent.
Face it, Zero. We're being babied, and as a result we're raising a society where youth relationships are seen as "robbing the cradle", to use a fitting phrase. I still say let the fuckers have what they want, but now I think I'm going to mention that we're perfectly capable of becoming mature before we're allowed to exercise our responsibility.
Trust me, I know this firsthand, I've been living on my own since I was 16. But, the people voting want us in school until we're 18, and don't want anyone knocked up until then. BS or not, we just gotta suck it up and deal with it. A common inability to face this as a fact of life shows the voters that we aren't as responsible as we say and think we are, seeing as how governed by our own sex drives we are.
And uh, I had no idea that knuck was from brazil, nor that his age was 15. That changes things a lot, < j/k level=harmless> but now I'm just gonna laugh just at him as I would when I was 15, finding out that one of my friends of the same age got desperate and dated an 11 year old. < /jk> But seriously though, what is your age range, Knuck? We talking budding stage, or like, "I picked my girlfriend up from kindergarten,"? |
windwaker
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Originally posted by Thayer
Originally posted by windwaker
Uh. You just said dickwad. You have no authority to call someone immature. D; Honestly, are you some 30 year old who was the only one in high school that didn't get laid? That's really what it sounds like. XD
Until this post, this thread was actually a fine discussion. gtfo <!-- Actually, I'm 19, you dickwad. -->
19 and still not laid, eh?
I hate to point out more obvious irony, but the discussion was fine until you said that people only get laid 18 or younger so they can brag about it. And they you said dickwad, in which case I replied, and you flamed me in html comments.
Mature. XD |
Grey the Stampede
Posts: 3318/3770 |
Was that necessary, Thayer?
Zero, pedophilia, wrong as you or I may think it is, has several different definitions.
There are the people who are around your or my age who happen to be attracted to people who are significantly (e.g. five or six years) younger than them. This attraction could be physical, it could be emotional, it could be both. That doesn't make the older an instant rapist. It means there's an age gap. If respected, no matter what happens later on in life if it really was meant to be a relationship then the fact that they're still a significant age distance apart still applies, but for some reason it just means less. That's kinda deflating.
Then there ARE the rapists, the weirdos that need to satisfy their sexual needs by tricking kids into going into vans and pulling their pants down. That's wrong, but that's wrong because it's rape in the same sense that grabbing someone in an alley and forcing them into it is rape. It should be applied to the same laws that taking advantage of someone sexually is.
Then there are the people who are both underage; did you know that knuck is only 15? How does him liking girls that are 12 years old end up being wrong? Especially since he lives in Brazil. Culture shock! Kids "date". It's actually kinda cute to see. Not SEX, mind you, but I'll cover that one later, because as it stands right now that can only be defended with the argument that "oh it's gonna happen anyway", which I agree with you on in that it's an argument that doesn't have rational thought to it since other laws will be broken alongside it.
The human body matures very quickly in relation to how quickly we are allowed to take advantage of this fact by law. They say that even though you're physically ready to have sex, you're not ready emotionally. Whose fault is that? Society's!
Earlier I said that I believed that people weren't mature enough to have sex until they were about 16 and even then they were just making a mistake. I think I should revise that statement. I think we should be taught about sex earlier. Like, right when our bodies start changing. We're not mature enough because we don't understand ourselves enough. If we are educated, if we learn, if we allow instinct and knowledge to work together, then that is what leads to emotional maturity. We're more comfortable with our bodies, we're able to bear the need to have sex more responsibly, and we're able to take advantage of the fact that we're able to do so with impunity.
Face it, Zero. We're being babied, and as a result we're raising a society where youth relationships are seen as "robbing the cradle", to use a fitting phrase. I still say let the fuckers have what they want, but now I think I'm going to mention that we're perfectly capable of becoming mature before we're allowed to exercise our responsibility. |
Thayer
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Originally posted by windwaker
Uh. You just said dickwad. You have no authority to call someone immature. D; Honestly, are you some 30 year old who was the only one in high school that didn't get laid? That's really what it sounds like. XD
Until this post, this thread was actually a fine discussion. gtfo |
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