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Tarale
Posts: 2627/2720 |
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Originally posted by neotransotaku
Originally posted by HyperHacker
And how's its command line? Powerful? Simple? Nonexistant?
OSX has command is as powerful as UNIX since command line did not come in until OSX. So I'm not sure what you are eluding to as in power of the command line...
But yeah, UNIX cmd utilities >>>> Windows cmd utilities
So it's a Unix command line? Niiiiice.
Yes, it is, because effectively Mac OS X is a variant of Unix. Specifically, OS X is built on top of Darwin -- based on FreeBSD and the Mach microkernel.
As such, you can port a lot of Linux and Unix applications to OS X, etc. 
Which is one of the reasons I keep saying that there's a LOT more to OS X than "eye candy"  |
Mercury
Posts: 68/88 |
Indeed, when I was taking programming classes, I could use the Unix command line, and compile my files with GCC. For programmers, there's also Xcode, which is standard with the Mac (or you can down it for free) and used by almost all professional Mac software engineers . |
HyperLamer
Posts: 7208/8210 |
Originally posted by neotransotaku
Originally posted by HyperHacker
And how's its command line? Powerful? Simple? Nonexistant?
OSX has command is as powerful as UNIX since command line did not come in until OSX. So I'm not sure what you are eluding to as in power of the command line...
But yeah, UNIX cmd utilities >>>> Windows cmd utilities
So it's a Unix command line? Niiiiice. |
Mercury
Posts: 67/88 |
Originally posted by windwaker
Originally posted by Tomguy
1. The state or quality of being stable, especially:
C. Reliability; dependability.
Comaptibility != Stability. And for the list of pre-2k/XP software compatible with XP, it's FAR greater than the list of pre-OS X software that's compatible with OS X. Trust me.
As for games... not the ones I play
# Windows XP/Me/2000/98 (NT and 95 NOT supported)
Note that MAC isn't even LISTED.  This is the game I play most often, too.
Some games are released on the Mac, yes.
Way to use google.
Honestly, you really haven't made any anti-mac comments that anyone cares about so far. XD kapwnt
Indeed, BF is already for a while on the Mac.
Reason why it isn't listed there is because they didn't port it, Aspyr did. |
Tarale
Posts: 2625/2720 |
Ah, I just thought that the WoW stuff was bought up earlier in this thread (probably just games in general now I think of it) as an example of Mac suckiness.... while I remember, Office X sucks, until you patch it. My favorite bit is how when you change the font, it just crashes for no apparent reason. 
Office 2004 is supposed to be better, but I haven't actually *run* it yet, just installed it. (I have little use for "Productivity" software at home....) |
Legion
Posts: 5385/5657 |
Ah, that wasn't part of a "macs suck" arguement I was trying to make. WoW for Macs was brought up and I thought I'd put that little sliver of info in here. |
Tarale
Posts: 2624/2720 |
Originally posted by Legion
Yeah, there's a Mac version of WoW but from what I've seen in the forums, it sucks big time. Some people can't even go to certain areas because it just wont work. I don't know what they mean by "wont work" but that's what they say. There's always bug fixes strictly for the Mac version in every patch too.
Hmm... but that doesn't mean that Macs suck... it means that the programmers who ported WoW to Mac did a really shitty job of it  And are doing a fairly crappy job of fixing it too from the sounds of it.
Tomguy -- this is a little thing, but it's something I love that my Mac does that Windows doesn't -- Expose. Another little thing -- Spotlight. And yet another little thing -- asking for an Administrator password when you install something.
Actually, it's a lot of the little things that make me <3 OS X. They all add up to a really good user experience for me.
Oh, and there's all my abandonware Mac games too Mmm... stuntcopter... deliciously crappy |
Legion
Posts: 5381/5657 |
Yeah, there's a Mac version of WoW but from what I've seen in the forums, it sucks big time. Some people can't even go to certain areas because it just wont work. I don't know what they mean by "wont work" but that's what they say. There's always bug fixes strictly for the Mac version in every patch too. |
neotransotaku
Posts: 3904/4016 |
Originally posted by windwaker
Especially because it's a standard to have many different command line options (shell/bash, perl, etc.).
One can use perl has a shell 
anyways...Mac vs. Windows is like C vs. Java -- the both have their good and bad qualities
I'd defect from windows if I didn't have many programs that run on it. I've never liked OS emulation and I still haven't found better replacement for Microsoft Word. |
windwaker
Posts: 1779/1797 |
Originally posted by neotransotaku
Originally posted by HyperHacker
And how's its command line? Powerful? Simple? Nonexistant?
OSX has command is as powerful as UNIX since command line did not come in until OSX. So I'm not sure what you are eluding to as in power of the command line...
But yeah, UNIX cmd utilities >>>> Windows cmd utilities
Especially because it's a standard to have many different command line options (shell/bash, perl, etc.). |
neotransotaku
Posts: 3903/4016 |
Originally posted by HyperHacker
And how's its command line? Powerful? Simple? Nonexistant?
OSX has command is as powerful as UNIX since command line did not come in until OSX. So I'm not sure what you are eluding to as in power of the command line...
But yeah, UNIX cmd utilities >>>> Windows cmd utilities |
windwaker
Posts: 1778/1797 |
Originally posted by Tomguy
1. The state or quality of being stable, especially:
C. Reliability; dependability.
Comaptibility != Stability. And for the list of pre-2k/XP software compatible with XP, it's FAR greater than the list of pre-OS X software that's compatible with OS X. Trust me.
As for games... not the ones I play
# Windows XP/Me/2000/98 (NT and 95 NOT supported)
Note that MAC isn't even LISTED. This is the game I play most often, too.
Some games are released on the Mac, yes.
Way to use google.
Honestly, you really haven't made any anti-mac comments that anyone cares about so far. XD kapwnt |
Snika
Posts: 703/916 |
I guess Windows can't be used by a monkey. |
kitty
Posts: 2099/2449 |
Something practical, like video editing, or a popular game, something along THOSE lines |
HyperLamer
Posts: 7204/8210 |
Say, what's development like on Mac anyway? Is it particularly difficult? If I can develop/port versions of programs I use, I'd probably consider switching. (Except that I don't have the money, but I plan to buy a laptop eventually; maybe I could get a Powerbook or something.)
And how's its command line? Powerful? Simple? Nonexistant?
Tomguy: Runs Mac OS! (Emulation doesn't count.  ) |
kitty
Posts: 2098/2449 |
Tarale: Name something that your Mac does that a PC doesn't/can't do, please |
Tarale
Posts: 2622/2720 |
Originally posted by windwaker
Originally posted by Tarale
Windows is not going to become OS X any time soon. I'm sorry, but if you think that all there is to OS X is the eye candy, you REALLY need to go and educate yourself about OS X.
As for Windows being influenced by Mac OS (Classic OR X) well, that's been happening for years. Where do you think your Recycle Bin comes from? Mac OS has had a Trash can since the beginning of Mac OS -- back in 1984. Windows didn't have the Recycle Bin until Windows 95 was released...
Uh, a lot of OS X is eye candy. There's a lot of added functionality, but come on, anyone who's used it for more a few months can see that most of the production went into how it looked.
Yes, it is obvious that great care and attention to detail went into their OS's look and feel.
Still doesn't mean that that's all there is to OS X. If it were, then frankly it would be useless. Pretty, but useless.
Macs are good. They're not for everybody, but they're good. They're used a lot in both graphic arts and scientific fields, they're excellent for home use, and some people even use them as servers or development machines. I use one, and I love it. It doesn't do everything my Windows PC does, but then my Windows PC also doesn't do everything my Mac does |
HyperLamer
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Actually, Windows XP is pretty stable so long as you don't hack it or use IE. But of course, it's no fun if you don't hack it. But you still do need to reboot every now and then to install updates, lest you get nailed with a lot of viruses.
And I don't think this thread needs any more Mac-bashing. Macs are good for some tasks, PCs for others. |
FreeDOS
Posts: 1594/1657 |
For the game part: It's actually far more common for developers to release a game only for one platform in the stores. And then later provide the engine for other operating systems, sometimes even with source code so you could do your own port! |
kitty
Posts: 2093/2449 |
1. The state or quality of being stable, especially:
C. Reliability; dependability.
Comaptibility != Stability. And for the list of pre-2k/XP software compatible with XP, it's FAR greater than the list of pre-OS X software that's compatible with OS X. Trust me.
As for games... not the ones I play
# Windows XP/Me/2000/98 (NT and 95 NOT supported)
Note that MAC isn't even LISTED. This is the game I play most often, too.
Some games are released on the Mac, yes. |
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