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Bella
Posts: 1690/2962
Yeah, I like both of them. I was into games when I was younger but as time went on I got more into them and started liking just video games in general more. I didn't play RPGs back then and I still need to play the past FF's so I can't compare them to the newer ones.
Colin
Posts: 9779/11302
I have a *preference* for old school games since I was brought up around them and all, but both can be quite enjoyable. If a game nails down the whole "gameplay" aspect, then it's going to be good whether it has 2D or 3D graphics. It's when you get into the whole "more style than substance" trap that you see problems with some of today's games.
KATW
Posts: 3456/3959
Theyre both fine. Next gen and old favorites, as said before

Does it really matter which ones are better? As long as you get an enjoyable playing experience out of the game, then who cares. I'll play the original Mario Brothers as much as I'll play Metroid Prime. Sure, they may look, and feel TOTALLY different, but theyre still good in their own way.

Everything has its own value, old or new
aioria1981
Posts: 16/234
There are plenty of different opinions. Just think in emulators for consoles as IMBNES or SNES-STATION. Those where meant for people that felt nostalgia for old games, and wanted to play them like they were playing in the same original console. The idea of using the actual technologies to improve games of that kind (in this case, the amount of games in each cd or dvd) is present, giving more chances of amusement (instead of buying remakes of old games like NES games for upcoming revolution)
/.hack
Posts: 6/19
I like both cuz i like the old final fantasy games and rpgs like that but i like the graphics on todays games better.
Snika
Posts: 347/916
Originally posted by TheCube
I think one reason a lot of people think older systems have more great games is because of Emulation.


Very true. If it wasn't for emulation, I would have completely missed out on the Super NES and NES era.
Violent J
Posts: 507/749
You know what would be the shit? If a console was relesed that was only ment for 2D games. And with technology these days, the games length capabilities could go on for days because they are 2D and therefor SMALL. This would rock, because Im sure Nintendo and alll those third partys like Sega( I still want them back as system developers ) and others would pump out games and it would be awsome!

I like older games because they arent complex and they are what set the standard. Nothing was ever repetitive or boring. They were always new and usually improved from older releases. Nowadays, everything is eather "Stolen Idea" or "Same damn thing" , like everyone trying to make games that are like Half Life 2 or even run off its engine (Supposed Metroid Prime 3 rumor is that it will mimick HL2's engine. Such bullshit....).
Xeolord
Posts: 2991/3418
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis
oh, for the love of... ANOTHER of these?!

A fun game is fun, new or old. SMB3 is fun. It's an old game. Knights of the Old Republic is fun. It's a new game. Goldeneye is fun. It's somewhere in the middle.

Yes, some people prefer old games. Others like new. But it's moronic to say that either is better than the other.

BL: I believe he was saying that there were countless shitty games that people seem to forget about. Rather like there are now, really...


Same thing I said to myself when I saw this ...

I love videogames, yes, I have that nostaglia in me, and I can easily say my favorite systems are the NES, SNES, and Gensis, but there are still many games that are still coming out that I look forward too. Heck, need proof? I own a PS2, DC, GCN, and an Xbox. So yeah, obviously I play all of the new systems, and will probably continue to do so until my end.

I do see more value in older games though. But yeah, I'm not really going to vote on this. I just love videogames all around.
Danielle
Posts: 1366/3359
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis
oh, for the love of... ANOTHER of these?!

A fun game is fun, new or old. SMB3 is fun. It's an old game. Knights of the Old Republic is fun. It's a new game. Goldeneye is fun. It's somewhere in the middle.

Yes, some people prefer old games. Others like new. But it's moronic to say that either is better than the other.

BL: I believe he was saying that there were countless shitty games that people seem to forget about. Rather like there are now, really...

I agree with this guy completely. Categorizing games by how old they are is stupid.

And the same was said about music. This was in another topic.. about how people always say music was better "back then." But really, the music that you as an individual can like will always be there. It's just that people forget the bad stuff that was made in the past.
alte Hexe
Posts: 4950/5458
It's called Shovelware. People make lots of it.
Tamarin Calanis
Posts: 717/1802
oh, for the love of... ANOTHER of these?!

A fun game is fun, new or old. SMB3 is fun. It's an old game. Knights of the Old Republic is fun. It's a new game. Goldeneye is fun. It's somewhere in the middle.

Yes, some people prefer old games. Others like new. But it's moronic to say that either is better than the other.

BL: I believe he was saying that there were countless shitty games that people seem to forget about. Rather like there are now, really...
Black Lord
Posts: 395/453
Originally posted by Zerodius

1. Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Super Mario Bros 3, and 350000 other games that can be safely labelled as "garbage".

2. Really, old-schoolers, shut up and play the new games without whining for once!


1. If your saying every game besides those three can safely be labeled as garbage, then I will seriously hunt you down, slit your throat and watch you bleed. Then I'll save you before you die, and do it again later. Seriously.

2. I have played newer games, I like plenty of them, but I honestly enjoy the old games better. It's just me, it's my opinion, I'm not whining about it, yeah there are some new games that were major disapointments because of the way their potential for being great wasn't used, but that's the only reason.

All I'm saying is if I had a choice to play my NES or Gamecube, 9 out of 10 times it would be my NES.
HyperLamer
Posts: 6252/8210
Each has its own ups and downs. A detailed 3D environment can really blow your mind, while really good 2D games are easier to make and thus more common. It depends on genre too. 2D racing games suck, no way around it, whereas 3D shooters just aren't usually as fun as games like Super Metroid. Adventure games like Zelda are so much more fun in 3D when you can really explore and feel like you're in the game (not that the 2D Zeldas don't rock incredibly hard), but 2D adventures have their own advantages like bigger worlds and in some cases being able to defy physics. (Mario games, though not adventure, do this a lot - think Super Mario Bros 2 where you could go to the other side of space-time to pick Mushrooms, or SMB3 where you could go behind the scenery. You can't do these kinds of things in 3D.)
Zerodius
Posts: 1955/2036
Quoting RT-55J...

"I personally think that the mentality that "olde skool is 3410 billion times >>>> than new sk00l games" is purely fed by one thing:

Nostalgia"

Anyway, end quote.

Technically, next generation is necessarely better... TECHNICALLY, NOT IN PRATICE.

Better technologies = Better POSSIBILITIES

As such, some new gaming platforms are HUGE wastes of potential, focusing on nothing more than pretty graphics.

The argument goes both ways.

Stop whining about 3D games being shit and look at the 2D library back then.

What do you see?

The nostalgia-filled morons will say:

"Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Super Mario Bros 3"

I see:

Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Super Mario Bros 3, and 350000 other games that can be safely labelled as "garbage".

Even back then when scrolling the screen was seen as nothing more than a dream and that the entire game was spent over a single screen, there was such a thing as "crappy games".

Really, old-schoolers, shut up and play the new games without whining for once!

New-schoolers, go past your "dull colors" or "unrealism" phobia and play the old games, for once!

Now that this is said, I believe I can shut up and lurk in the shadows, reading the upcoming posts leave this thread at once.

If this sounds like flame to anyone, sorry for altought the tone is a bit harsh, offending people wasn't my goal.
Riku
Posts: 451/1239

It's not the ability to move in 3-d motions, it's the fun gameplay that matters.
Who cares if it's easy? if it's fun, play it. They are both awesome.
TheCube
Posts: 72/82
I think one reason a lot of people think older systems have more great games is because of Emulation. It's easier to toss out the shitty games when it was FREE, plus you have easy access to a huge library of games. When you payed 50 (or 30, or 20) bucks for a game, you're a lot more disappointed if it's bad, or even mediocre.

So I voted both.
Snika
Posts: 343/916
I think that if you find a game you really enjoy, it doesn't matter which generation it is. I still play games like The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past for the SNES today, but I also mix it with new games such as The Sims 2.
RT-55J
Posts: 169/240
I personally think that the mentality that "olde skool is 3410 billion times >>>> than new sk00l games" is purely fed by one thing:

Nostalgia
alte Hexe
Posts: 4933/5458
My NES is fun and all, but the games are short and too damned easy. I can get more challenge out of playing Ninja Gaiden for X-Box or maybe jacking up the difficulty on Halo 2. The both require more thinking than "A"...SHIT B B B B B B B.

The old sk00l vs today argument is perpetuated by jaded morons who really should forget how to breath.
Black Lord
Posts: 390/453
NES, SNES, and Genesis all rock the sox out of anything of these ages. I honestly could sit at home and play my old NES all day, I could not play Gamecube all day, the games don't appeal to me as much. SNES same, and once I get a Genesis I'm sure it will be the same way.

Once I move to Omaha, I'll have access to shops that sell older games too, lot of shops that is. The only one in town is the pawn shop, and they rarely have a game I want.

The only newer system I like is the N64. And even that doesn't compare to the older stuff.
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