Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Hardware/Software - Using 2 P2P apps for the same file
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HyperLamer
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Well I mean for those of us stuck with x amount per month transfer rates. I tend to use up 95% just downloading, forget seeding. (Of course, I built up a huge ratio at the tracker beforehand, so I can afford to do that.  ) |
DarkSlaya
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Originally posted by The Crimson Chin
And it is nice, but having to seed is a real bandwidth killer. 
That's why people tend to say "Allow only 80% of your bandwitdh to seeding". I always give 80% or more, of course |
HyperLamer
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Because of how BitTorrent works, your download speeds tend to be slow at the beginning and end and peak in the middle.
And it is nice, but having to seed is a real bandwidth killer. |
neotransotaku
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Originally posted by Surlent
But on the other hand I know, 6 gigs take a lot of time; but since I usually never download anything not even far as huge like that (biggest file so far - about 400 MB), this is the only exception
i have been downloading Rockman.EXE (9GB download) at an average rate of 10kb/s -- I have downloaded about 4.75GB in a 1 week time frame...
but I rarely download stuff that big too... the max is 700MB for drama episodes I download. But often it is just several hundred megs that takes several hours to get done.
i've noticed downloading speeds make a significant difference of how far you are from an major internet backbone. |
FreeDOS
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yeah, BitTorrent's meant to be one of the fastest methods to share files... 
One time I downloaded 2 GB in only 1 hour and 30 minutes on BitTorrent (downloaded CentOS) |
Surlent
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Heck, that sucks and giving too low bandwidth destroys the system of P2P if the user is not in an emergency or something else. My computer is not running 24/7, especially because it's a cheaper one (for me it was not cheap if you don't have sufficient money after everything important is paid ) amd I never would run a computer longer than 1-2 hours alone. Although never happened something, I just don't do that.
But when I'm done and when the box is running, I'll seed as long as possible. When I'm playing something and don't need the internet, I free up to 13/14 KB from my upload, when I'm running Firefox at the same time (just like now), I'll give 10 KB/s, but only contribute that to one or two people. When I'm finished, usually I click on "SUPER SEED" ...
I think it brings more to give one user more upload so he's faster finished and also will be a seeder soon 
But on the other hand I know, 6 gigs take a lot of time; but since I usually never download anything not even far as huge like that (biggest file so far - about 400 MB), this is the only exception
Edit: Episode 1 is done, yay  |
DarkSlaya
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Surlent: It may depend on weither the seed/peers limited their Upload speed, or there are just alot of leechers (or sometimes, speed just suck) |
Surlent
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I tried it again - no peer found who needs to have it seeded, also the torrent is abandoned now 
Since it is about P2P, I have a question about download rates and the number of seeds.
I'm currently downloading something bigger (I don't know if that anime is licensed in the US or not - so greyed out to avoid anything) - they are currently nine peers, and I already had more than 70-80 KB/s sometimes.
But these rates suck. Ports are open in the firewall, the number of connections is set properly and I have nothing additional running.
So, are the download rates independent from the number of seeds usually ?
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HyperLamer
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Most P2P programs use completely different protocols and file specs. You might get lucky and find that both use a hash method that checks what parts of the file are there and what aren't (BitTorrent does), but chances are the two programs would use different algorithms, chunk sizes and hash storage methods, which would make them incompatible.
Originally posted by Surlent
I had that some weeks ago. It was a torrent file, Fifteen seeds, in the beginning three, then two and finally only one seeder was sharing the torrent. Nearly everyone was stuck at 99,5 %, and obiviously - since it was a RAR archive, the contents inside were are corrupt because it was unfinished, 1.2 MB were missing
About three days I was online, tried it with BitTornado and Shareaza - hell, even downloaded the same thing with Shareaza again because I saw more sources - but it stopped at 99,5 % again; no seed.
Another day later the seed went on
I wanted to seed the file as long as possible and did it longer, but there were only other ... seeds - we got all done and no peer remained 
Well keep seeding anyway, for when someone does try to download it. |
neotransotaku
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Originally posted by Surlent
A download began with Shareaza can be continued with Azrues, BitTornado or any of the other clients which support the BitTorrent protocol.
This is true if and only if the file has been completely allocated. Partially allocated BitTornado downloads will lose a significant amount of data when using Azureus to continue due to the way Azureus does hash checking |
Surlent
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I had that some weeks ago. It was a torrent file, Fifteen seeds, in the beginning three, then two and finally only one seeder was sharing the torrent. Nearly everyone was stuck at 99,5 %, and obiviously - since it was a RAR archive, the contents inside were are corrupt because it was unfinished, 1.2 MB were missing
About three days I was online, tried it with BitTornado and Shareaza - hell, even downloaded the same thing with Shareaza again because I saw more sources - but it stopped at 99,5 % again; no seed.
Another day later the seed went on
I wanted to seed the file as long as possible and did it longer, but there were only other ... seeds - we got all done and no peer remained
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Cornellius
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I downloaded something with Ares up to 54 %, and the dude's not always there. I noticed more people have it on Emule. I want to use Emule but I do not want to start the download again. |
Karadur
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This is more of a guess than anything, but I'd say no. The main reason I think it wouldn't work is because two programs might have different ways of continuing a stopped download The only way I can see that you'd be able to find out for sure is to try it yourself
Just out of curiosity, why exactly do you want to know this? |
Surlent
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I only know this about torrents, since they consist of the same basic core.
A download began with Shareaza can be continued with Azrues, BitTornado or any of the other clients which support the BitTorrent protocol.
As for other ones - it depends how the application stores them - temporary files might not be able to recognized by another application. You could try it:
Copy the unfinished (meta) data into the other appllcation's "incomplete" (or other) folder and try to start it.
Edit: You mean getting a file faster using two programs
Impossible, you can't get higher rates than your maximum download rate. |
Cornellius
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Ok, let's say that the two files are the very same, with the same MD5. I begin a Ares a file named omgwtfbbq.mp3. Is it possible to continu the download of the EXACT SAME file with another P2P. I was wondering... |
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