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aioria1981
Posts: 74/234
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Hey, that's really awesome. How's it work; does it use games designed for some special system (like VS system or something) or does it just have a list of where games store their scores in memory? And how does it stop people from cheating with codes/hacked ROMs/built-in cheats?

The scores are stored in a file, with a ndb extension. I've open it with an hex editor to see the format of it. I figured it out, and as a cheater i am, i uploaded the scores with ubernes. When i saw that after a long time the scores weren't uploaded, i e-mailed the author, and said that the data i had sent contained 'Too many serious errors'. Then, wondering what has happened, i found that there was a sort of verification code, about 8 bytes, at the beggining of the nes database, so in order to get high scores the only way is to...PLAY. Then i learned my lesson

As for cheats, i think it must be as simple as a variable that says if the user is using a code or not, to prevent uploading. About hacked roms, the emu seems to have the crc of the original roms and compares to it to detect if they're hacks or not. The weird thing is that i played an arkanoid rom with infinite lives, but the emu showed it as if it was the normal rom, so, where in the heck does it stores the original data of the rom ?

PS: I hope the author doesn't read this forum . Said that, the scores showing in the page as 'megaman' are legal because i couldn't cheat
ExKay
Posts: 955/1114
JNES owns j00 all.
djtristaph
Posts: 27/36
Get Nesticle.


Do it. Now.

Riku
Posts: 714/1239
JNES for online play!
HyperLamer
Posts: 6735/8210
Hey, that's really awesome. How's it work; does it use games designed for some special system (like VS system or something) or does it just have a list of where games store their scores in memory? And how does it stop people from cheating with codes/hacked ROMs/built-in cheats?
aioria1981
Posts: 60/234
If you want unusual features, Ubernes has a high score support, and even worldwide high scores. It can be downloaded here

PS: if you want to take a look at the high scores, go to here. I'm actually the highest score in galaga, and 6th place in the overall scores. My nick there's Megaman, and if you don't trust me, look at the place where I'm from. It says V region, Chile and Viña del mar is in the V region of Chile
ZombieMushroom
Posts: 34/212
Zachio, don't bump topics. My favorite is FCEU.It runs well, and all around pwns.
AP
Posts: 39/333
My favorite emulator is FCEUxd. It has great quality in graphics and decent in sound, and has extra features for debugging & ROM hacking. I use these extra features (mainly the Debugger and the hex editor) to edit ASM code and other stuff for my hacks.
AsukaFan2K6
Posts: 68/183
My favorite NES emulator is FCE Ultra.
TapTap
Posts: 20/405
I Like Nester.
Sukasa
Posts: 1402/1981
While you're looking, my friend favoured ROCKnes, it was the only one he'd use.
HyperLamer
Posts: 6001/8210
One thing bugs me about FCEU... Escape quits the program, no prompt or anything. On every other emulator I know of, it shows the menu. Way annoying. Also, F4 goes fullscreen as opposed to Alt+Enter. How about some standard key combos?
fabio
Posts: 239/1479
FCEUXDSP is my best as of right now because it's way better than my old emulator Nester and NesterJ. FCEUXDSP can go full screen with a push of the button unlike Nester. Also, on my Nester, the colors look awful when your moving but it doesn't happen in FCEUXDSP. You must have this emulator, get it at Zophar's Domain. By the way, if you don't have a Dos computer, you can forget Nesticle because it only runs on Dos, it didn't work with me because I have Windows.
Ice Ranger
Posts: 171/183
Yeah, FCEUXD (SP) is the best way to go. I use it for everything now. Of course, I started out the early days with Loopynes when nothing else would work. Switched to NNNesterJ and used that for an incredibly long period of time. Discovered hacking, switched to Nesticle which wasn't using that very long because FCEUD had a palette viewer. Discovered how much quicker it was to use it than Neticle for palettes so I went to FCEUD. Until FCEUXD (built in hex editor got me). Then FCEUXDSP. Having conditional breakpoints for the debugger quickly made it my favorite.

In other words, FCEU.
Ten
Posts: 178/198
FCEU had replaced NESticle as my favorite emulater a long time ago. If it weren't for the fact NESticle started producing horrible sound quality, I'd still be using it probably, as it was the first NES emu I've used. (Same reason I still use ZSNES, but I havn't heard of anything better.)

The only thing I wish FCEU had, aside from some of the funtions that NESticle had, like the in-game graphic editors (although nothing you did could be saved as far as I know) is the speed up to be +, but for some inane reason, it's the ~ key.
Prier
Posts: 6762/8392
I think everyone agreed on FCEU.

Most places you'll find will say the same thing. If nothing else, I've also got blip's version of it which plays back recorded movies (with re-recording).
Dish
Posts: 449/596
That's what I'm realizing. FCEU and NNNJ have the same patching feature (in fact, pretty much every emu does).

JNes doesn't really offer anything besides bare-bones system emulation. And it even only does a mediocre job of that (when speaking in terms of accuracy).

I get the impression people just recommend it because it's what they've always used -- despite it not really being up to par with the others.
Leevit
Posts: 11/12
Well, it's somewhat simple and easy to use in terms of gaming. Also, the patching feature is reason (even though you have to rename your ROM to same as your .ips but it won't take long) I use it and it has always been my favourite emulator to get some screenshots.

Of course, if I want to rely on making movie or other nice features, I use FCEU. Somehow, I have always liked to play games with Jnes as it's very comfortable to use. I'm not sure, maybe other people recommend to use it for same reasons.
Dish
Posts: 448/596
Can anyone explain the fascination with JNes? I mean yeah it's a decent emu in that it runs games. But its accuracy isn't remarkable and it is totally lacking in features. FCEU, hell even NNNJ blow it completely out of the water, yet people still recommend it.

I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking it... it just boggles my mind. Why is such a mediocre emulator so popular? Seriously, can you explain?
Leevit
Posts: 7/12
I recommend two emulators; FCEU and Jnes, especially FCEU.
It has all necessary things you could have. Same goes to Jnes,
which seems to also have a patching feature, great for playing
complete hacks or just those hacks with enchanted graphics.
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