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thetallness
Posts: 31/57 |
If it's a disease, then could I call in sick for work?
"Sorry boss, I can't come in to work today. I'm fat." Honestly.
I would call obesity a physical condition, since it is, but a disease? Not so much. Most of the time, being obese is the person's own fault. If obesity is a disease, then diet and excersice are the cure, and these so called diet pills are the placebos.
So just say no:
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cowsruleusall
Posts: 47/50 |
To me, obesity is definately a disorder. But first, obesity is not the same as being overweight. Overweight- having a BMI of 25 or more. Obese- having a BMI of 30 or more. Some people argue that genetics plays a major factor, but it doesn't. Analogy- Obesity is a gun. Genetics loads the gun, but how you eat and excersize pulls the trigger. Obesity is not a normal state to be in, and can be very damaging to joints, ligaments, and tendons (although I remember reading somewhere that it may increase bone mass as compensation for the excess weight). Also, a lot of blood goes to supply those fat cells, so it increases the load on the heart and lungs.
I know this sounds really bad, but it just bothers me that someone the age of 15 could weigh 300 pounds. It's just not normal. |
Slay
Posts: 178/339 |
Don't fret over what others classify as disease or lifestyle choice. I personally believe that alcoholism is not a disease, but there are armies of scientists and psychiatrists who would think me an utter fool for disagreeing with them. Just believe what you want. |
Reid
Posts: 515/558 |
Obesity is the worst thing to come to the Americas since we got a surplus of Food. People need to stop being greedy fat asses and learn what is good for them not what tastes good. I personally would call it a disease becuase it's so wide spread and such a problem. I mean yeah there is a definition of it and some people can't help but get it. Some people eat becuase they don't know when hunger stops and when joy begins. I dispise obese people and all of the millions of dollars they made us waste while looking for a cure for obesity.
Maybe I am just too superficial with people. Or maybe I am talking out of spite. |
Danielle
Posts: 650/3359 |
Originally posted by Dude Man
I already gave it. In my eyes a disease is a disorder of the human body (not abrubt physical damage like being set on fire) that basiclly isn't caused by that human being. Saying that somebody who diets bad has a disease is like saying somebody who smokes weed has a disease.
A disease and a disorder are different things. Being set on fire doesn't fall under either one of those.. 
People who have addictions could also be considered having a disease.. it really depends on how you look at it. I'd have to say drug addiction is a disease just as much as a food addiction is. |
NSNick
Posts: 2670/3875 |
So you wouldn't say lung cancer or cirrhosis of the liver (in most cases) are diseases?
Edit: Not trying to be argumentative, just seeing your point of view. |
Dude Man
Posts: 48/116 |
I already gave it. In my eyes a disease is a disorder of the human body (not abrubt physical damage like being set on fire) that basiclly isn't caused by that human being. Saying that somebody who diets bad has a disease is like saying somebody who smokes weed has a disease. |
Tarale
Posts: 2176/2720 |
See, that's another thing. Doctors DO consider it a "disease" and many consider it an "epidemic". |
NSNick
Posts: 2667/3875 |
So, what is your definition of a disease, then? |
Dude Man
Posts: 46/116 |
It does suck. We as americans often can justifie many evils with others that do that same.
What I mean is what Dei* said above. They feel less in a bad position because there are so many others like them.
Wow, went off topic on my own topic... lol...?
I stand by my opinion that Obesity is not a disease, threatining? YES! underestimated? YES! disease??? hell no. |
Dei*
Posts: 130/412 |
Not to mention disgusting. I honestly put these type of people who don't care about their obesity into the 'low self-esteem' class. I don't know why. |
Danielle
Posts: 633/3359 |
Very few people go about weight loss the right way because it's time consuming and has slow results. Because of all the other unhealthy waya people try to lose weight, it's become unsafe. You can't starve your body from nutrients it needs in order to lose weight. Sure, it will work (and fast), but it's very dangerous.
In today's society, people don't make time for exercise and cooking a healthy dinner instead of McD's.
With the "bringing it on yourself" I have to agree. Keeping in mind a few special exceptions, an obese person made themself that way by living an unhealthy lifestyle. What's more, a majority of Americans don't even care that they are obese, because they're not alone. And that's depressing. |
Dei*
Posts: 125/412 |
How is weight loss dangerous? Unless you go about the 'regular' way of getting rid of it like excersicing (I fail spelling), eating well and stuff I can't see how that's a dangerous issue. |
Tarale
Posts: 2167/2720 |
In a lot of people's cases, yes, I'd have to agree. However, I do have to wonder if that has to do with the topic of it being a "disease" or not.
Anyways, if it wasn't already obvious, I believe it is a disease, and I believe that not enough people take it seriously. I think that it should be seen as a HEALTH issue, and not a BODY IMAGE issue, and that people should seriously consult with their doctors (particularly if they are "Obese") to come up with a SAFE and effective plan for weight loss.
(Note: I think too many people don't even consider that weight loss can be dangerous too....) |
Dei*
Posts: 121/412 |
Ok I just somehow KNEW I worded that wrong. Ok what I meant to say, I think, is that it's mostly your fault if you're obese. |
Tarale
Posts: 2166/2720 |
I'm gonna have to second that "WTF".
Well, on "bringing it on yourself" -- my current overweightness I wouldn't quite classify as having been "bought upon myself". I have had clinical depression, and one of the things that happened with me is that I tended to gain weight whilst on the antidepressants. o.o So I wouldn't consider that I "bought it upon myself"....
Course, that's another reason why I think that the doctor should be somebody that people discuss their weight with. While on the antidepressants, nothing I did seemed to help me shift any weight / stop putting weight on. I should've discussed this with a doctor; maybe had a change of medication or been given some other advice as to how to prevent the weight from becoming a problem. The doctor would've had extra knowledge that might've helped. |
alte Hexe
Posts: 4290/5458 |
Originally posted by Dei*
I too, can't see it as a disease, and if it were calssified as such I would have to say it's your own fault you brought it upon yourself. Although this really isnt the case half the time, because it can naturally happen no matter what. I just think that the people who CAN/COULD prevent it should eat a little bit more carefully.
WTF? |
NSNick
Posts: 2642/3875 |
Originally posted by Tarale
A disease is any abnormal condition of the body or mind that causes discomfort, dysfunction, or distress to the person affected or those in contact with the person.
Taken from Wikipedia, but I'm sure I can look it up in a dictionary and find a similar definition.
The dictionary definition is even broader:
From dictionary.com
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Dei*
Posts: 117/412 |
I too, can't see it as a disease, and if it were calssified as such I would have to say it's your own fault you brought it upon yourself. Although this really isnt the case half the time, because it can naturally happen no matter what. I just think that the people who CAN/COULD prevent it should eat a little bit more carefully. |
Tarale
Posts: 2164/2720 |
A disease is any abnormal condition of the body or mind that causes discomfort, dysfunction, or distress to the person affected or those in contact with the person.
Taken from Wikipedia, but I'm sure I can look it up in a dictionary and find a similar definition. |
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