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HyperLamer
Posts: 4563/8210 |
I say they should just re-write it all from scratch and provide an emulator for the old API. Their current system, especially GDI, is a major pain to use.  |
Ramsus
Posts: 65/162 |
They're probably just working on new developer frameworks to replace their old ones. Of course, they'll still keep all the runtime libraries for all of their old technologies around (what, 50 different versions of COM and DirectX?), so the OS will be that much bigger.
GDI will probably be replaced with something akin to QuartzExtreme in Tiger that handles all of the 2D graphics in VRAM, so I wouldn't be surprised if the GUI ends up being more responsive. |
HyperLamer
Posts: 4540/8210 |
I'm sure they've tried. Problem is their code sucks.  XP was supposed to be a total rewrite though, and it's certainly a hell of a lot more stable/less buggy than older versions. (You actually have to have a problem to get a BSOD.  ) |
Snika
Posts: 62/916 |
Yeah your right... Too complicated. I still think Microsoft should completly redesign Windows and have it be more stable... Like Mac OS X.
=P Snika |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 1263/1757 |
if you go and do that, it will be a real system hog, and not many would use it, personally, I wouldnt want a 3D desktop.... |
Snika
Posts: 60/916 |
I think Microsoft should just start from scratch on an OS and go crazy. Like, have 3-D Desktops, like all those little things you can download. And they should also have it really stable. They could make the GUI very, very spiffy and 3-Dimensional. They should also have a slew of new programs. Then they will realease it! It will be called Windows Better Than Anything Else.
=P Snika |
Tarale
Posts: 1894/2720 |
I'm just going to offer my two cents on Linux as a 'switcher'.
I love -- absolutely fucking adore -- linux.
In theory.
In practice, I find it too much of a pain in the fucking arse, I can't do the things I want to do in it, it's too much hassle to make a change, etc...
I switched to a Mac. In fact I switched to a Mac BECAUSE of Linux. It wasn't as much of a pain in the arse as I was finding Windows to be, and it let me do the things that Linux wouldn't let me do. I'm now very, very happy  |
Tails
Posts: 48/98 |
I don't think I have enough willpower to change to Linux, even though it has better stability/security e.t.c. I'm just not one to like change.
More back on track with the name of the topic.. I've tried running the beta on this computer, and I got too many errors "what would you exprect from a 6 year old computer?" I'll most likely use it when I get a new computer in a few months. |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 1230/1757 |
vmware lets you install an os in a virtual environment so to say, you can run any os ontop of your original one, its slower then when installed directly on your pc, but they did a good job of making it a decent speed..
I cant take any screenshots, since I deleted it in vmware to install linux, but heres a site with some shots,
http://www.flexbeta.net/main/comments.php?catid=1&shownews=12884 |
windwaker
Posts: 1539/1797 |
Take some screens for us, Dcahren ~_^.
And, wtf is vmware? You've mentioned that a few times.  |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 1219/1757 |
Originally posted by R2H2
As for Longhorn, I've only seen screenshots and I don't like them. The GUI is ugly and undoubtedly a huge resource hog. Microsoft seems to think that the most important part of an OS is eye candy.
you would actually be suprised, on how the gui manages to not hog resources, in vmware, it ran smoothly, with 400MB ram...not to mention it was easy to install, and was pretty damn fast at installing to...but its basically XP all over again, and I barely noticed any changes except the gui...so yeah. |
MetalMan88
Posts: 145/232 |
Bah. Windows NT 3.51 is where it's at. Forget eye candy. I like my bland white background! I have a very.... weird idea on how one should deal with the problem of Windows sucking. Just use abandonware and plug in tons of aftermarket things. You might be laughing at me now, but just wait until I load the ultra-small and efficient Windows NT 3.51 server onto a 3 GHz monster!
...The only difficulty is drivers. Though I think Windows NT, as a whole, is still mostly supported, save for... DirectX problems? |
HyperLamer
Posts: 4447/8210 |
I've heard things about that a few years ago. I say we have a mass riot if they actually implement it. |
Sandy53215
Posts: 508/948 |
Originally posted by R2H2
As for Longhorn, I've only seen screenshots and I don't like them. The GUI is ugly and undoubtedly a huge resource hog. Microsoft seems to think that the most important part of an OS is eye candy.
Indeed, and from what I am hearing at ITT-Tech they are going to make it communicate with a "security" chip that will not let you do illegal things. So as far as "Longhorn" and "Blackcomb" go is I could really care less for both of them.:/ |
Tarale
Posts: 1851/2720 |
Speaking of eye candy, I'm sure you've all noticed that Apple's GUI is very pretty. Mac OS X is a joy to work in.
You know what happens with each new version of Windows (with shinier GUI each time)? It gets slower and requires more resources to run...
You know what happens with each new version of OS X? It gets faster on older hardware! |
HyperLamer
Posts: 4437/8210 |
The people who say Linux's installer is crappy are probably those using a distro that doesn't have one at all (you do it all manually). 
BMF, a-freaking-men. Where the hell is Folder Options this time? It seems to move every time they release a new service pack.
As for Longhorn, I've only seen screenshots and I don't like them. The GUI is ugly and undoubtedly a huge resource hog. Microsoft seems to think that the most important part of an OS is eye candy. |
Ailure
Posts: 9638/11162 |
The biggest problem with Linux is how hard it is to... let say mantain.
Anyone who says that Linux have a crap installer probably hadn't installed Linux in years. Certain distros even surpasses Windows installations in both function and ease. The problem is that it usually stop to get easy as soon you want to change some configuration or installing programs. :/
But, Linux have gotten easier to use lately people say. So I think Linux could be more mainstream, even if certain nerds don't want that. |
Sokarhacd
Posts: 1216/1757 |
I think soon....linux will be the king...seeing as how mirosoft always seems to butcher windows....another reason is because there were rumors of a yearly fee for longhorn..which better not happen, or else people will just pirate it, or use XP...or switch altogether...which is what im thinking of doing, when I can get everything the way I want it. |
Ailure
Posts: 9635/11162 |
Dunno, Longhorn no longer looks promising when you have seen Tiger and some of the latest Linux distros.
Microsoft really do have alot to catchup with. If they want to get anywhere.
And yeah, I do have tried Longhorn... nothing impressive. Just stripped away features. It was more stable than earlier Longhorn betas, but thoose had more features at the same time... :/ |
dan
Posts: 571/782 |
Longhorn may turn out to be a bit of a disaster. Some of the features that were trumped about when it was announced have slipped, and probably won't be ready for Longhorn's release. Plus, some of these features are being backported to Windows XP, so unless there are some fantastic-super-killer features in Longhorn that aren't gonna be available for XP, I see no reason to upgrade.
Personally, when I change my operating system next, it will probably be to whatever distribution of Linux is fashionable/easy to learn at the time (been meaning to get a new hard disc so I can install Ubuntu), or maybe even Mac OSX. |
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