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Shyguy
Posts: 604/1998
Originally posted by Trashykins
Originally posted by Master M
Ooh.... This- this hurts. It's my best yet, and....... (sniff)
I'm. Not. Giving. Up. Yet! Aw, what the heck. I'm awful..... I guess my edits aren't for publicity. (more like in the garbage) I'm not going to sink. I'm going to hire staff!
Aww, poor diddums.
Yup...... that about did it...... (CRASH! BOOM BANG POW CRUNCH) there! I hammered it to peices.
Kario
Posts: 1784/2082
I dont get the hype on this at all. You play as a raven. Thats it, the 3 screens show the same screen with him in 3 different positions, looking right, looking left, jumping. I dont like his name or the name of the hack. Its too obvious. I dont think any hacks should be called "Super ______ World" Unless its "Super Mario World: Cool Subtitle Here"
gnkkwinrrul
Posts: 617/647
Nice work...even if it is just falling in with the current fad...not that hard to make mario into OMG AN ENEMIE1

If your levels are good too, I'll play this.
The Kins
Posts: 431/595
Originally posted by turtleman
wow I wonder whats next?

A bullet bill?

oh well atleast this lil' fad gets newer everyday rather then older XD
This fad isn't exactly new, I just dug up it's festing bloated corpse. And to prove that theroy, I remember a Bullet Bill hack for SMB1.
turtleman
Posts: 67/119
wow I wonder whats next?

A bullet bill?

oh well atleast this lil' fad gets newer everyday rather then older XD
The Kins
Posts: 428/595
Originally posted by Master M
Ooh.... This- this hurts. It's my best yet, and....... (sniff)
I'm. Not. Giving. Up. Yet! Aw, what the heck. I'm awful..... I guess my edits aren't for publicity. (more like in the garbage) I'm not going to sink. I'm going to hire staff!
Aww, poor diddums.
Xkeeper 2.0
Posts: 349/1091


Master M, your edits are okay. Not amazingly good, but they're not "OMG I SUXORZ" like you seem to think they are in that post.

And let's hope this fad doesn't die soon. My hack will be original because it's got Mario!

Edit: Damn it, you HAD to edit your post.
Shyguy
Posts: 603/1998
Ooh.... This- this hurts. It's my best yet, and....... (sniff)
I'm. Not. Giving. Up. Yet! Aw, what the heck. I'm awful..... I guess my edits aren't for publicity. (more like in the garbage) I'm not going to sink. I'm going to hire staff!
Glyph Phoenix
Posts: 186/745
@Kyouji: Wow, that's pretty deep. Kyouji has a pretty damn good point. But the problem here is that we're always looking at the same Mario drawing, which sucks. So the more Mario sprite changes, the better.
Sketchie
Posts: 133/356
I guess this is just a new tread going on, using enemy sprites in place of Mario/Luigi.

It will die out sooner or later, so don't worry about it.
Alastor the Stylish
Posts: 5832/7620
My take on this: Most of these enemy-only hacks are pretty doomed. A few of the enemies I have a particular liking for (Mainly just Raven, though Ninji's kinda cute too) so I support them, but really: Mario is what makes the series great. He doesn't fit in to the world, at all, which is what makes it so extraordinary. If a regular enemy were who you play as, then everything would seem normal, since the scenery and everything else is twisted in a similiar way, but with a human, who the player can easily identify with as being similiar to themselves, the screwed-up place around them takes on an entirely different feel, even if they don't realize it, and it is this feeling which gives the Mario series its lasting appeal.
Glyph Phoenix
Posts: 184/745
I really don't think that we're getting all that much from a single sprite change, Chickenlump. While really cool when done correctly, SMW has two text bubbles per level. We aren't exactly seeing things from a whole new perspective, just seeing a different 16 X 32 sprite for a change.

But I approve of the Mario sprite changes anyway, because fat Italian plumber butt isn't exactly my favorite view for the duration of a video game.
Chickenlump
Posts: 542/722
I think it's one of the more creative aspects of editing SMW.
Think about it, Mario can only have so many reasons to rush through levels. There's only so much you can do with him.
For every enemy hack that comes out though, comes new stories from new perspectives. New levels and stories (in this case, from a bird'e eye view XD), and level layouts and power ups and enemies to face off against. New themes that weren't possible with Mario are now possible.

Sure, ANYONE can rip graphics and change levels around. But making a new playable character, with new frames of animation, and having it come out WONDERFULLY is a real feat. Sure, it's going to be a fad for awhile, but it's interesting to see which of these hacks will make to completion, and how they will stack up to each other.
cpubasic13
Posts: 947/1346
...how... highly... uncreative...

Seriously. Since "The Ninji Saga" everyone takes an enemy from another Mario game and makes a hack around that. Take an enemy from a hack and use it! I could probably use my Spikeo sprite and make a hack of that.

...speaking of which...
Shyguy
Posts: 601/1998
I playin'. 'Torry....

Seriously, you have to have a class on figurative speaking.....
Chickenlump
Posts: 541/722
I agree. All you have to go on is a few screenshots that show some standard frames of animation. Any good 'play as an enemy hack' worth it's weight in salt MUST have quite a few NEW and creative frames of animation. Ninji uses alot of new frames of animation and has really created his own character and presence. I must admit, the raven is cute and all, and everyone and their grandmother (myself included) is creating non-plumber hacks, which is a real attention grabber, but before pitting ANY of them against each other in any way, wait for tangible playable games to pit side by side first.
The Kins
Posts: 426/595
Originally posted by Master M
Don't be hatin'! Anyway, I love it! That clearly owns all. Even....... (ninji)
Lets wait until both hacks are out before saying things we can't take back.
Shyguy
Posts: 600/1998
Don't be hatin'! Anyway, I love it! That clearly owns all. Even....... (ninji)
PumpkinPie
Posts: 158/1158
CONTINUE THIS HACK! DO NOT STOP!

This looks uber-cool. Nice use of flightless bird. I like it!
Alastor the Stylish
Posts: 5829/7620
I hate you all; perhaps if you paid more attention I would not.

I clearly said I was complaining about the main character's name (Ravie the Raven) which I hate and not the name of the hack (Super Raven World) to which I am fairly indifferent.
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