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Kefka
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I think now would be as good at time as any to say...






CHRIST WAS A SOCIALIST!

alte Hexe
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Yes, do you realize how many prophecies there are like this geeogree? And do you realize the inherent problems with these prophecies? What a lot of people don't realize is that the "true" Papacy (the effective proper descendant of Paul in a spiritual sense ) is currently in the Anglican Church. Because the Bishop of Canturbury...Well, suffice to say it is long and complex. If you want to go off on a scholarly tangent on this, I'd be more than happy to yabble on.

As for the whole of this...You shoulda read it yourself. "However, it should be noted that some commentators over the centuries have pointed out that there is nothing that says there will be no popes between Gloria Oliv
geeogree
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it's part of the prophecy of St. Malachy....

I mentioned it earlier.... thankfully someone posted about it, whether because of me or not...

the prophecy gave predictions of 112 popes.... and Benedict XVI is the 111th....

meaning there is one more

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp - scroll down to the bottom... you'll find the entire list there
alte Hexe
Posts: 3714/5458
Link, please.

Please, my friend. Tell me all of this information that you know so well. Where did you get it from?
cds113089
Posts: 34/46
To the starter of this thread...

John Paul II said there would be only two more popes before one of them would turn against the church, setting the stage for the Antichrist himself. Benedict XVI is not the anti-pope, in fact he holds fast to the Catholic beliefs. The next pope, most likely, will be a liberal who will lead the Catholic church into apostasy.

Also, almost 1,000 years ago another pope said that there would only be 112 more popes before Antichrist rises to power. John Paul II was #110, Benedict XVI is #111. Remarkably, this fits John Paul II's prediction perfectly.
Ran-chan
Posts: 9136/12781
Originally posted by Admiral Kefbar


We'll assume he meant the Nigerian guy. That is kind of funny though. The "other guy" xD


That
Colin
Posts: 7971/11302
So Trapster was betting on the field instead of Ratzinger? Ow.

Cardinal Ouellet of Quebec City is being tipped to go to the Vatican as one of the new pontiff's secretaries. He's possible pope material someday... although he's conservative and is against same-sex marriage among other things, he's also led the fight to keep Catholic and Protestant school boards alive in Quebec, so I'd probably have a love/hate relationship with him.
Kefka
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Originally posted by Emperor Ziffatine
Originally posted by Trapster

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alte Hexe
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Originally posted by Trapster

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Ran-chan
Posts: 9108/12781
Yeah, that picture of the emperor didn
alte Hexe
Posts: 3671/5458
Next person that posts that stupid Pope-Emperor Palpatine picture gets banned. I will insure that you get banned.

Next up: geeogree. I think that that and Fatima are going to be discussed during Mass on Sunday. Our parish priest is a fairly strong believer in miracles.
Mercury
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Doesn't really matter who it is, they're all bad in their own way anyway.
This one was even member of the Hitlerjugend...

This might happen!:
geeogree
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you guys should look up the prophecy of St. Malachy...

that should give you something interesting to talk about
iamhiro1112
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I guess one advantage to having such an old pope is that they won't be in office for too long. I think that is what they wanted cause the previous pope had such a long reign. I herad some describe the new pope as a interem pope. A guy to fill the spot for a couple years and then they will select a younger pope the next time around.
Colin
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I think he chose Benedict because he's not going to have a long reign.

I don't see a major problem with this. Yes, Ratzinger is conservative, but I can't see him damaging the church too much in his short tenure. It'll basically just be status quo for the next couple of years, as it should be with someone clearly chosen as a transitional pope. If anything, I just hope that he overcomes his shyness and makes a few visits - and isn't it a coincidence that one of his first will be to his native Germany for World Youth Day?

snipy_chipy: The bell thing is new this time around, John Paul II came up with the idea in order to avoid confusion.
alte Hexe
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Yeah. He'll die, not before he does some damage though.

As for you snipy_chipy. There is a difference between liberal and conservative, yes. But in relation with orthodoxy within the Church, there are oodles of Popes that we're seen as liberal, yet were righteous defenders of the orthodoxy of the hierarchy of Rome.
Kefka
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This guy's almost 80 already, Ziff. If you want a new pope, then you'll probably get one in... I'll give the guy 4 years at the most. He'll be 82 then.

"If a Pope is too liberal, then the catholic religion will eventually lose its way."

You really don't have to worry about that. Because while there are some liberal archbishops, there are tons of conservative ones that won't go for them. What would be nice if there was a conservative one that ever DID change some things about the church, like letting women have more power. But we know that's not happening this time around.
alte Hexe
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I hate being a Catholic.

And in a horrible twist of irony, he chose the name Benedict XVI. The last Benedict was fairly progressive.
snipy_chipy
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I really thought they were going to elect an Italian.

They release white smoke instead of black when they have selected a new Pope, the beels must of came afterwards.

It's god for him to be a conservative. If a Pope is too liberal, then the catholic religion will eventually lose its way. That won't happen with one Pope, but over the string of years, anything can happen.
blackhole89
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Yeah. They elected Ratzinger (a German from Regensburg). Dammit, he's probably one of the heaviest conservative hardliners the church has. And he used to have an official fan club ;;;
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