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FreeDOS
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There was a Windows 2000 Advanced Server Limited Edition once. It was a port to the Alpha, 64-bit processor. If you read around, you probably'll just find stuff that says development for the Alpha was discountinued, but this was the exception.

The addressable memory does not depend on the processor, but other stuff... I know that it's possible to have up to 64 GB of RAM in an x86 motherboard. Linux supports it (by default, only 4GB), and as mentioned earlier, the higher edition Windows' support it.
neotransotaku
Posts: 2750/4016
with a 64-bit CPU you do have 2^64 of addressable space. The publically released version of windows doesn't take advantage of the 64-bit processor if you have one. However, Microsoft still has a beta 64-bit version of windows floating around.

If you want to take full advantage of a 64-bit, get a G5 Mac
HyperLamer
Posts: 3838/8210
Theoretically, you should be able to have more (like 2^32 times more ) with a 64-bit CPU, but I'm not sure if Windows supports it. A program using 4GB of RAM is a pretty crazy idea for now anyway.

And Notepad can open large files, yes, but have you ever tried it? It takes forever and runs really slow.
FreeDOS
Posts: 1270/1657
Well, Xkeeper took it with a literal definition... text editors would just show the same result on the different platforms (or a text editor that supports both line break types not native to their platform).

neo's right, it's just addressable memory. Virtual memory included. Windows 2000 Server, AdvServer, and Datacenter Server all increase the limits that 2000 Pro have (Pro: 2 CPUs, 4GB of RAM). I'm not sure about the specifics at the moment. WinXP Pro is equivalent of 2000 Pro; WinXP Home limits you to one CPU. Windows Server 2003 probably has the same limits as the Win2k counterparts (though the names are different ).
neotransotaku
Posts: 2735/4016
Originally posted by Ailure
4GB of what? Virtual memory? RAM? RAM+Virtual memory?
4GB of addressable memory

all programs can't exceed no more than 4GB of active memory since 32-bit systems can only address 2^32 bytes.

The amount of RAM+VM is equal to RAM+the amount of free space on the drive where the swap file is found
Xkeeper
Posts: -2311/-863
Originally posted by Ailure
Xkeeper, I think that's what the diffrent symbols actually should do according to the ASCII standard...
That's based on the typewriter functions:

Line feed would obviously bring the text up a line (seen in Unix)
Carrage Return would return the type head to the beginning of the line (Mac)

Obviously, DOS uses both, and if things were based off of what they do in reality, that's what would happen.

If I had my old dot-matrix printer, I would try printing things with just line feeds and carrage returns, not both
Ailure
Posts: 8745/11162
Originally posted by FreeDOS
the limit is technically 4GB, the memory limit of Windows NT... but that's not truely a Notepad (or any other application) limitation.
4GB of what? Virtual memory? RAM? RAM+Virtual memory?

I assume it's the last one but heh, I think the limit is a set one actually and that there is versions of Windows NT that have higher limit.

Xkeeper, I think that's what the diffrent symbols actually should do according to the ASCII standard...
BMF98567
Posts: 706/1261
I run into that linebreak problem a lot with Notepad. I had to edit a bunch of my old HTML files in Wordpad because of that, actually...which is odd, because I could've sworn I originally saved them in Notepad back when I had Windows 95.
Xkeeper
Posts: -2319/-863
Originally posted by FreeDOS
The line break thing went back to the early days.... the breaks themselves came from the carriage return then line feed of typewriters. UNIX decided to just use the LF, while CP/M (later to be known commonly as DOS) used CR+LF, then Mac decided to use just the CR.




Anyway, unicode support doesn't matter with me (since I know no language that uses it and everything I have is in plain text)
FreeDOS
Posts: 1269/1657
the limit is technically 4GB, the memory limit of Windows NT... but that's not truely a Notepad (or any other application) limitation.
||bass
Posts: 254/817
Originally posted by HyperHacker
I do that too if the file's too big for Notepad to open. Textpad seems to be a lot better at opening big files though.
Only the old notepad does that. The notepad with 2000/XP doesn't have that filesize limit.
FreeDOS
Posts: 1264/1657
The line break thing went back to the early days.... the breaks themselves came from the carriage return then line feed of typewriters. UNIX decided to just use the LF, while CP/M (later to be known commonly as DOS) used CR+LF, then Mac decided to use just the CR.
HyperLamer
Posts: 3815/8210
I do that too if the file's too big for Notepad to open. Textpad seems to be a lot better at opening big files though.
Originally posted by ||bass
If only everything used the same linebreaks....

Fixed up a bit.
Ailure
Posts: 8688/11162
Mmm, Word open thoose textfiles fine thought with thoose wierd line-breaks.

But Word takes so long time to start, Notepad is just lighting fast.


Linux... well, I hadn't found anyone I liked. The thoose I tested was terminal ones, and they kinda confused me. But after some trial and error... it wasn't that much of a problem.

I either use Notepad or an hex editor. I actually have used a HEX editor a few times on a few TXT files one of my own programs created.
||bass
Posts: 245/817
Hell, notepad beats alot of beefier editors. Atleast unicode saves and loads various unicode formats no problem. If only it supported unix and mac linebreaks....
HyperLamer
Posts: 3789/8210
Notepad, just plain Notepad. The whole point of it is that it's a very lightweight text editor. I use it for (get this) jotting down notes. It also redraws very, very fast - good for hiding the screen without looking suspicious. (Not that I would ever need to... )

I do find Textpad quite awesome, though. I use it for programming and more advanced text editing (HTML and anything that needs a lot of files open at once or replacements with regular expressions). Just I don't consider it a Notepad replacement, but another editor entirely. I would love to have a Notepad replacement that had those two features, but just those two. Notepad != MSWord Lite.
ExKay
Posts: 557/1114
Notepad ++

It pwnz and is very user-friendly at least for me.
||bass
Posts: 238/817
Windows: Normal notepad, no variation
Linux: Pico
neotransotaku
Posts: 2680/4016
Windows: Textpad
Unix: emacs, I would never touch vi--but you have my respect if you use it

Colin
Posts: 7421/11302
I like Metapad; it's small and it does what you'd want from a simple text file editor. I also have UltraEdit on here for large jobs, which are rare.
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