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windwaker
Posts: 1283/1797 |
Originally posted by Xkeeper
No, I hate PNG transparancy, because it slows my computer to a f*cking crawl when it's onscreen. (that would be the reason I stopped using it on my site in the first place, aside from having a shitty image editor to make PNG Trans in)
Also happens with transparencies in Flash movies, and I hate those too. 
*Xkeeper waits for some dickhead to say "OMG BUY NEW COMPUTER LOL!"
Oh.
It doesn't scroll too slow for me, but yeah, I guess that does suck in a way.
zomg I missed Zem's sarcasm. xD |
Ran-chan
Posts: 8098/12781 |
I viewed the layout in IE and...it couldn |
Ailure
Posts: 8344/11162 |
Well, it's understandable if it's opera run under Win98 on a 300 mhz Pentium II. Thought I should look at the same layout on my slowest computer with both Opera and Firefox.
The layouts actually looks nice, and for some reason after two months... I turned on layouts.  |
Xkeeper
Posts: -2413/-863 |
Yeah -- the layout looks fine, it's just that it scrolls by realllly slowly. |
Zem
Posts: 902/1107 |
Okay, you got me. I had assumed it was another one of those things you said you hated just to annoy people. Good thing for you not many people use it yet and you can block specific layouts. |
Xkeeper
Posts: -2416/-863 |
No, I hate PNG transparancy, because it slows my computer to a f*cking crawl when it's onscreen. (that would be the reason I stopped using it on my site in the first place, aside from having a shitty image editor to make PNG Trans in)
Also happens with transparencies in Flash movies, and I hate those too.
*Xkeeper waits for some dickhead to say "OMG BUY NEW COMPUTER LOL!" |
Black Lord
Posts: 224/453 |
Originally posted by windwaker
Meh, this is like the only way to get the affect I wanted, as I have to offer a semi-transparent layer.
Originally posted by Zem
Actually, he's right. I fucking hate having the option of multiple levels of transparency. I am also opposed to widespread literacy and the refrigeration of food.
I think there's a hint of sarcasm in there windwaker. |
windwaker
Posts: 1274/1797 |
Meh, this is like the only way to get the affect I wanted, as I have to offer a semi-transparent layer. |
Zem
Posts: 889/1107 |
Actually, he's right. I fucking hate having the option of multiple levels of transparency. I am also opposed to widespread literacy and the refrigeration of food. |
windwaker
Posts: 1273/1797 |
Originally posted by Peardian
I saw the picture and it does look better with transparency, but, um... I think it just shrank. I hardly fills up the box now.
It looks the same to me, and the code hasn't changed. 
Originally posted by Xkeeper
PNG transparency sucks. 
No, no it doesn't. Elitists who bash something because their browser doesn't support it do. |
Xkeeper
Posts: -2419/-863 |
PNG transparency sucks. |
Peardian
Posts: 401/1696 |
I saw the picture and it does look better with transparency, but, um... I think it just shrank. I hardly fills up the box now. |
Kario
Posts: 1417/2082 |
It is a really great layout, went and checked it out in IE, doesn't look bad there either, but definitely looks better in firefox. |
windwaker
Posts: 1269/1797 |
Browser bashing? Yes, that was browser bashing. People using IE? Were we bashing people using IE? No, we were bashing IE and Microsoft for it.  |
Tamarin Calanis
Posts: 353/1802 |
Alright, I'm sick of this browser bashing bullshit.
I use IE. It works well enough for what I need it to do. I don't need every page to look perfect, as long as it's readable. Which, most of the time, it is; the only exceptions are due more to shitty layouts and color choices than my choice of browser - or, because of assholes blocking IE from viewing their site.
You'll disagree with me, fine. Don't really care, honestly. I just figured I'd throw in my off-topic-two-cents, since everyone else was.
But, back on topic, good job on the layout, ww. Even though it doesn't work perfectly in IE, it still looks good. If only I could see more layouts that work that well. |
Kario
Posts: 1416/2082 |
Yeah, it looks awesome. Don't lower yourself. |
windwaker
Posts: 1267/1797 |
If I used IE, I would totally be pwned.
I guess I won't waste my time making it look nice for the IE users. ;D |
Vystrix Nexoth
Posts: 288/348 |
For those bereft of both user-agent competence and bereft of knowledge of said bereavement, this is how the evil hippie commie pinko liberal Firefox v1.0, in particular, handles one of the very things MSIE doesn't:
Originally posted by windwaker
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That's 100% standards-compliant (minus the lack of compliance imposed by the acmlmboard codebase) PNG transluscency there, boys and girls. No browser-specific CSS gobbledygook, just straight-up transluscency in accordance with the Standards.
Firefox handles it; Opera handles it; Konqueror handles it; Safari handles it; Galeon handles it; Mozilla Suite handles it; even Netscape nowadays handles it. MSIE does not handle it. MSIE fails to observe the Standard. There are kludgy workarounds (not a single one of which will work in a browser that's not MSIE, let alone be anywhere near Standard), but no real standards observance. (As an aside, it doesn't really matter if you do need all this CSS "filter" DirectX crap to get a reasonable facsimile of competence out of MSIE's PNG renderer... just have the browser invoke these things itself when it encounters a PNG image with transluscency... but adding alpha-channel support to icons and cursors in XP was more important).
The more people that continue to cling to their Microsoft-provided security blankets, the longer its stagnating will continue to hold back the web from advancing.
Firefox has advanced. Opera has advanced. All those other browsers have advanced. MSIE stopped advancing when it wasn't profitable anymore, back in 2001; in the time since it has delved out a pittance of minor updates adding features the other browsers had a long, long time ago, and those who don't know any better consider this to be advancement when, in reality, they're just getting the scraps left over from the banquet.
I for one am not satisfied with scraps. Maybe you are, I don't know, but I'm not. We have so much to give to you, give to you asking nothing in return, if only you will take it! It will benefit you and it will, to a degree, benefit everybody.
</semi-off-topic rant> |
Jesper
Posts: 2195/2390 |
Just put the competent browser part in a selector that looks like this:
html > my-class-shit-here { myruleshere }
And the last-updated-in-2001 browser part in a selector that looks like this:
* html my-class-shit-here { myruleshere } |
windwaker
Posts: 1257/1797 |
No, it wouldn't be Firefox's fault (as much as you'd love it to be), it would be conflicting CSS. It's like me saying that I want the background to be transparent purple, and I'd also like the background to be an image. |
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