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11-02-05 12:59 PM
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ammiellodebar
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I can tell you for a fact that OGG's converted from MP3s will be ridicoulously big.

FreeDOS
Posts: 1178/1657
^ Well said...
Vystrix Nexoth
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The reason you don't want to "convert" an MP3 to Vorbis* is because both are "lossy" codecs, i.e. they throw away some information in order to improve compression. Both do this in such a way that, to the human ear, the difference is negligible.

The two codecs (MP3, Vorbis) take different approaches to deciding what to throw away, so they throw away different things.

If you convert an MP3 to Vorbis, you will not regain the information thrown away by the MP3 encoding process, and then Vorbis will throw away other parts.

The end result will have the cumulative total of thrown-away parts from MP3 and Vorbis. The absolute best-case scenario is that it sounds exactly the same as the original MP3 (but will be considerably larger), and in all likelihood it'll sound considerably worse. In no situation will it sound better.

The moral of the story is, if you have an MP3 file, and you don't have the original audio data (CD Audio, .wav file, something you can rip into a .wav file, etc), then leave it as MP3; there is nothing to gain by converting it to Vorbis. If you do have the original audio data, then encode that in Vorbis and discard the MP3.

* "Ogg" is just a multimedia container format; the actual audio codec is called "Vorbis".
Prier
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Goldwave is a lot better. That'll take MP3s, OGGs, WMAs, and a large amount more of filetypes that you may not have even heard of.

Also, it has batch processing...which can take several files of varying or similar types and convert them all to a specific type.
Cornellius
Posts: 150/460
WINLAME is usually the app I use to convert music files.
FreeDOS
Posts: 1165/1657
Actually, it'll probably make the files bigger than they should. Unless you can re-rip the original CDs, just leave them as MP3s.

But for the purpose of the topic... Audacity will import MP3 files. It can export to Ogg Vorbis. It will only export to MP3s if you have LAME, due to legal issues in Canada (last country with a valid patent) about creating them. Reading MP3s does not infringe on anything.
Boom.dk
Posts: 263/392
Haha, I'm not dumb... I think...

I thought of reducing the size of my music library. And at the same time get files with the same bitrate and format.
Ailure
Posts: 8111/11162
Yeah, you only gain quality diffrence if you take it from wav to ogg or rip from CD and then convert it to ogg.

OGG may have better quality than MP3, but converting from MP3 to OGG won't make the sound better. Just you know. Maybe even little worse...
Boom.dk
Posts: 262/392
Ahh this lets me do the MP3 -> OGG thing too. Thanks!


What should be wrong with converting? I'm tired of my library with mp3s AND wmas from 56 to 224 kbps... that sux.

Edit: Damn. Can't take WMAs...
dan
Posts: 454/782
I remember hearing somewhere that you really shouldn't do that. Something about you won't be really taking advantages of the features of the OGG format if you do that.

However, that doesn't help you, but what I would do is use Winamp's diskwriter output plugin, and convert the dumped WAV to OGG format using one of the many free tools about, like FreeRIP (first thing I got in a Google search)
Boom.dk
Posts: 261/392
Can any of you guys recommend a program for converting MP3s to OGGs?
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