Posted by MikeFuryXP

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Let me pick your brain here for a sec...
To actually really jump start this place to a new or becoming project what do you suggest ?

We know smw hacking has been played in and out for so long that quite a few people are tired of it.
It had its long day in the sun, do you suggest board 2 starts really focusing in on smas, sm or any other game that has made atleast enough discoveries to begin fully hacking it ?

I look at the rom hacking section, the least active is zelda 1-3 currently sm at some levels during the years and mainly MM 1-4.
There are others, but its just a lack of motivation like I see at another forum I visit.
We can have all the ideas and agendas in our head to do a game or project, but ask yourself something closely...

How far will you get with a based size hack group that runs out of steam or people have other real life issues to deal with ?

All I can say, is they need to try and push for something until its fully recognizable.

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Posted by Green-Kirby

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Except, the problem still stands that you can't attract members with an group project, you can only boost activity with it among current members. Like mentioned before, most SMW hackers opt for SMWC.

Not to mention, we tried a SMW group hack before and it kinda failed.

And in all honesty, let's not go around saying SMW is the easiest way to go, it really is not. It may have one of the easiest editors to start up with. But SMW is an object based game, making it a living hell to import and use graphics from anything that does not use the same object structure. Or, I suppose, you could make new objects, but that would be quite a load of work as well. SM (super metroid) on the other hand (as an example) is an tile based game and is a lot easier to work with graphics in.

Not to mention sprite graphics load on-demand rather then pre-designed graphics pages. One may bitch about how hard SMILE is to learn, but it really does exactly what is needed and in a very smooth way.

Lunar magic is very easy to get in with and start up with, and SMILE is very hard. But in the end, how hard the editor is to learn is not really relevant, as you will still have to put down the same effort to actually design your part of the group project. Which, for the record, is where most group projects fail.

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Posted by NightKev

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You can't really compare ASMT, because the new registrations were probably caused by people who watch raocow's videos. He made a lot of "hey look we're doing a thing!" videos for ASMT/A2MT, and the talkhaus is, y'know, based on him and stuff.

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Posted by Green-Kirby

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I think you miss the point he was trying to get over. Getting people to join over a project like this would be very hard for us and it may in fact no yield any members at all.

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MAP16_NUMY	    db $03,$04,$05,$06,$00,$03,$04,$05,$06
X_SPEED		    dcb $10,$F0,$00,$00,$00,$10,$F0,$00,$00
Y_SPEED		    dcb $00,$00,$10,$F0,$00,$00,$00,$10,$F0
DIRECTION	    dcb $00,$00,$01,$00,$02,$00,$00,$00,$03,$00,$00

		LDA X_SPEED,y           ; \ set x speed
		    STA $B6,x               ; /

		    LDA Y_SPEED,y           ; \ set y speed
		    STA $AA,x               ; /

		    LDA MAP16_NUMY,y	    ; \ set direction-based tile-gen table
		    STA $185E		    ; / for Block1 code later (done while y is still correct) 

BLOCK1		;block chosen to gen already selected when sprite speed was set			

		    LDA $185E		;choosing tile to generate from table
		    STA $9C		;

		    LDA $E4,x		;sprite xpos low (table)
		    STA $9A		;blockgen xpos of contact low
		    LDA $14E0,x		;sprite xpos high (table)
		    STA $9B		;blockgen xpos of contact high
		    LDA $D8,x		;sprite ypos low (table)
		    STA $98		;blockgen ypos of contact low
		    LDA $14D4,x		;sprite ypos high (table)
		    STA $99		;blockgen ypos of contact high

		    JSL $00BEB0		; generate Map16 tile routine
                    RTS

BLOCK2 		LDA #$02		; always generate a blank tile, effectively 'eating'
		    STA $185E		; tile from map16

		    LDA $185E		;choosing tile to generate from table
		    STA $9C		;

		    LDA $E4,x		;sprite xpos low (table)
		    STA $9A		;blockgen xpos of contact low
		    LDA $14E0,x		;sprite xpos high (table)
		    STA $9B		;blockgen xpos of contact high
		    LDA $D8,x		;sprite ypos low (table)
		    STA $98		;blockgen ypos of contact low
		    LDA $14D4,x		;sprite ypos high (table)
		    STA $99		;blockgen ypos of contact high

		    JSL $00BEB0		; generate Map16 tile routine
                    RTS    

Posted by readme

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GENERATE ARBITRARY MAP16 TILE

LDA.b #$FF
STA.b $9C
;;STORE YOUR 16-BIT BLOCK NUMBER into $0660/1
JSL $00BEB0

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