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Level: 58 Posts: 374/726 EXP: 1503301 Next: 74245 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 4082 days Last view: 4082 days |
Holy crap, I messed it all up. Return on the title? That's bad.
Hold on while I type what I was going to say... -------------------------------- I WAS going to ask this: there was supposed to be some way to "blank out" the data in a ROM, or clear the level data, overworld data, and other things, but I'm...lazy, yeah, that's it. So could someone notify me on how to do it? |
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 Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 100/189 EXP: 199679 Next: 6763 Since: 02-20-07 From: Not here anymore. >> Last post: 5729 days Last view: 5704 days |
Press and hold CTRL + SHIFT + DEL when in a level. It'll erase all sprites, objects, and exits. Hope that's what you mean. |
| Madman200 |
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Level: 58 Posts: 378/726 EXP: 1503301 Next: 74245 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 4082 days Last view: 4082 days |
Unfortunately, no. That would work, but would be an immense amount of time wasted.
Plus, there would still be the overworld to talk about. I heard from an earlier time someone talking about getting rid of everything by using Hex...but I'm sux0r on that. For an age of 16, I'm way behind everyone else. Also, your 100th post occurred. |
| TheGreatGuy |
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 Beezo Level: 48 Posts: 186/480 EXP: 806531 Next: 17012 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 5398 days Last view: 5263 days |
Really, getting rid of everything in a hex editor would consist of going to the level data, highlighting it all, and setting it all to 00. Although I don't know the level format, so other consequences would be unknown, only things I can think of are screwy headers and being unable to tell where one level ends and another begins, but I haven't even looked at the way SMW stores levels, so either of those could be true, or neither. Same for overworld, go to the location, highlight it all, and delete. And always make a backup, always. ____________________ There are things I want to put here. Like a cool picture, my 8-bit theatre character test result, my MS and RO characters... But it's 12 AM, and I'm sleepy. |
| Juggling Joker |
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 Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 20/72 EXP: 46941 Next: 3002 Since: 02-22-07 Last post: 5546 days Last view: 4787 days |
Am I missing something, or is just deleting the level data when you're actually editing that level somehow not desirable? That's what I've always done, and it hasn't failed me yet. ____________________ Not The Only Starfish |
| NightKev |
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 Cape Luigi Level: 130 Posts: 736/4792 EXP: 25443062 Next: 287515 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3365 days Last view: 3277 days |
Posted by Juggling JokerSanity is hard to come by. ____________________ |
| Skreeny |
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 Cobrat Level: 55 Posts: 134/653 EXP: 1282232 Next: 31957 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 4971 days Last view: 4472 days |
Posted by Juggling JokerI think he means he wants to wipe it all out at once rather than one level at a time. I think I can see reasoning in which it would make sense, but I can't really explain it. Something dealing with convenience and not having to bother to blank the level when you start actually editing that individual level, I guess? |
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Beezo Level: 48 Posts: 189/480 EXP: 806531 Next: 17012 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 5398 days Last view: 5263 days |
Or maybe he's trying to make a "blank" rom, completely empty, as to make it easier to not build off of what's already there. I inteneded to make a blank patch of Final Fantasy, but that was before I knew how to use a hex editor, so I quit because it was too tedious. ____________________ There are things I want to put here. Like a cool picture, my 8-bit theatre character test result, my MS and RO characters... But it's 12 AM, and I'm sleepy. |
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Paragoomba Level: 21 Posts: 22/72 EXP: 46941 Next: 3002 Since: 02-22-07 Last post: 5546 days Last view: 4787 days |
Posted by TheGreatGuyI think it's fairly obvious that this is exactly what he is intending to do. I'm just saying that it's a monumental waste of time. What can possibly be gained from taking the effort to remove all level data before you start making your own levels? If there were a quick and easy "blank out this rom" button, that'd be another thing altogether. ____________________ Not The Only Starfish |
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 Lantern Ghost Level: 59 Posts: 289/766 EXP: 1629347 Next: 43781 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5594 days Last view: 5401 days |
Posted by Madman200 Not to get off topic or anything (even though I am), but I have been hex editing since I was 14/15...I am 16 now, but still, it only takes a little time to learn, possibly a nights worth of figuring it out. ____________________ I miss post headers more. |
| Madman200 |
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Level: 58 Posts: 382/726 EXP: 1503301 Next: 74245 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 4082 days Last view: 4082 days |
First, a word to everything before SaF's post.
I do mean that I want to scrap everything in the ROM before I start editing, if that's how you want to put it. Even if I can just edit the levels themselves, it might influence how I make it from the way it originally looked. Plus, changing what needs to be changed each time from zero will show me some of the "finer" points of using LM. At least, that's what I think... As for Guy, I don't exactly have that much time on my hands. But if you're willing to talk to me about it, I'll try to do so. Or you can just point me in a direction, however you want to do it. |
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Beezo Level: 48 Posts: 195/480 EXP: 806531 Next: 17012 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 5398 days Last view: 5263 days |
I'm not exactly sure what you mean. I told you how to do it, go to the location of the level data, and delete it all, I'm sure you can get the offsets from somewhere. Hell, you could just use a corruptor, specify the offsets and set them all to 00 easily. I'm sure all the locations you'd need are at smwcentral. They have a ROM map, you know. Make a backup before you do, this should become second nature. Always make backups, they are your best friends. ____________________ There are things I want to put here. Like a cool picture, my 8-bit theatre character test result, my MS and RO characters... But it's 12 AM, and I'm sleepy. |
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Paragoomba Level: 22 Posts: 67/77 EXP: 51831 Next: 6519 Since: 03-13-07 Last post: 5757 days Last view: 4479 days |
I honestly see no point in you waisting your time on such an endeavor. Already, with the code intact, ROM hacking (using hex) is "poking in the dark". Why? As I found out, you can't read the code - unless you are a "crack pot" or you have a photographic memory and can understand machine code (and such) - you (almost) randomly decide what code you're going to change and try and figure out what changed in the gameplay. Sure, there are tools to assist in this and it is very helpful in getting an idea of what you're looking for via other peoples efforts (ROM Mappings and such), thus narrowing the "randomness", but it is still "poking in the dark". If you're going to "start from scratch", why wouldn't you do something that is "more useful" like learning an actual language like C++ or something? With that you can build a career on, whereas "poking in the dark" you can't (or rather, it is much more difficult to)... |
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