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Red Paragoomba Level: 20 Posts: 42/60 EXP: 36814 Next: 5625 Since: 02-19-07 From: Cloud Nine, Turn Left and I'm There~ Last post: 6116 days Last view: 6067 days |
Danielle: Common enough conceit, everyone expects someone else to save them, no?
On a related note: An Israeli lecturer who died in the massacre at a U.S. university saved the lives of several students by blocking the doorway of his classroom from the approaching gunman before he was fatally shot ____________________ |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 240/309 EXP: 430265 Next: 11044 Since: 02-19-07 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6121 days Last view: 6097 days |
Police have named a student who shot dead at least 30 people at a US university as Cho Seung-hui, a 23-year-old from South Korea.
That's an odd one. He did go to V Tech and was studying English, but was also apparently a "loner". |
Sonicandfails |
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Lantern Ghost Level: 60 Posts: 204/766 EXP: 1679345 Next: 93433 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5962 days Last view: 5769 days |
I was at a games shop yesterday and one of the guys told us about this, and one of my friend was like "Thats so funny, he only killed 20 and wounded 20 but he had two bandeliers of ammo? If your going to have that much ammo at least find a way to distribute it! Hahahahaha!"
And then everyone else joined in... "Youd thing after the first classroom that every other one would have heard it and booked it. And how did noone see him walk in?" "Haahahahahahah" My friends are assholes, three of them older, one 33, the others in their 20s... ____________________ I miss post headers more. |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 52/181 EXP: 192878 Next: 13564 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6096 days Last view: 2883 days |
Posted by Sonicandfails I'm guessing the friends didn't know the shooter chained the doors shut. |
Kasumi-Astra |
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Paratroopa Level: 30 Posts: 39/154 EXP: 151377 Next: 14492 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6101 days Last view: 6114 days |
I don't think there was any reason to believe that the gunman would initiate a spree after the initial shooting. At the time the college were dealing with the original incident, they had no idea who the culprit was- it was impossible to come to the conclusion that every student was in danger and needed to be sent home.
In hindsite, it would probably be a good course of action in the future. Colleges and young people are obviously a recurring vulnerable area, any indication of such a motivation that emerges must be investigated. It now appears a note has been found from the gunman, now confirmed to be a South Korean living in the US, and a student at VT. It is said to be bitterly resentful of "rich" American students. It looks like something trivial has been left to decline in this guy, for whatever reason. |
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Mole Level: 42 Posts: 245/351 EXP: 520877 Next: 485 Since: 02-19-07 From: Massachusetts Last post: 5964 days Last view: 5400 days |
Posted by DanielleActually, I was told there WAS a lockdown, which of course the gunman "disappeared" during. When it was finally deemed "safe" the lockdown was lifted and sure enough, the gunman reemerged. Pretty crazy ;\ |
Thexare Blademoon |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 67/180 EXP: 191286 Next: 15156 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5963 days Last view: 5955 days |
So, is anyone taking bets on the scapegoat for this one?
I call Starcraft! Half of that was serious, btw... |
Danielle |
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Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 270/383 EXP: 593740 Next: 17545 Since: 02-19-07 From: California Last post: 5465 days Last view: 5465 days |
Posted by KeitaroPosted by DanielleActually, I was told there WAS a lockdown, which of course the gunman "disappeared" during. When it was finally deemed "safe" the lockdown was lifted and sure enough, the gunman reemerged. The lockdown was 2+ hours later, though. Pretty useless, no? |
Jin Dogan |
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Snifit Level: 38 Posts: 47/277 EXP: 364498 Next: 5949 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 5794 days Last view: 4330 days |
Posted by Colin What do you mean by "odd"? |
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Flurry Level: 37 Posts: 160/259 EXP: 330176 Next: 8077 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 4930 days Last view: 4869 days |
Posted by Thexare Blademoon he is from south korea, so it's not very farfetched |
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Cobrat Level: 56 Posts: 112/653 EXP: 1321591 Next: 76585 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 5339 days Last view: 4840 days |
Posted by DanielleCorrection: There may (or may not be) someone on campus who shot two people in what seemed to be a domestic dispute. Don't suggest actions based on what we know now, suggest based on what was known then. Now, tell me this: You get into a fight, things get out of hand, you kill someone (two people in this case, but meh). What do you do? Do you run, or do you go and start shooting random people, particularly 2 hours later and half a mile away? Sonicandtails & drjayphd: They did run. Out the window. It wasn't pretty. (One got a sprained ankle, the other... "wasn't moving" if I remember the report right?) |
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Spike Level: 58 Posts: 377/709 EXP: 1494260 Next: 83286 Since: 03-01-07 From: California Last post: 6003 days Last view: 3028 days |
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Porcupo Level: 41 Posts: 94/317 EXP: 447082 Next: 33063 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5931 days Last view: 3140 days |
The absurd thing is assuming any one person would take such a huge chance at throwing away his/her life under any circumstances, whether it means saving other people or not. It's foolish to sit back from the safety a desktop computer and even suggest that things should have gone differently with bystanders sacrificing themselves; I really do not believe that you would have willingly sacrificed your life in that situation. Instinct is not cowardice, and I do not see how you could be so ignorant as to confuse the two. Ugh. ____________________ |
Jin Dogan |
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Snifit Level: 38 Posts: 48/277 EXP: 364498 Next: 5949 Since: 03-14-07 Last post: 5794 days Last view: 4330 days |
Posted by Doritokiller Are you serious with that? |
Thexare Blademoon |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 68/180 EXP: 191286 Next: 15156 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 5963 days Last view: 5955 days |
Posted by misterjThe other half was the serious one.Posted by Thexare Blademoon |
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Red Cheep-cheep Level: 35 Posts: 103/221 EXP: 260245 Next: 19691 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6104 days Last view: 6141 days |
Posted by Dr_Death16 Indeed. Depending on how someone is raised, although it is incredibly unlikely in today's world, these instincts may be different. Outside of that, there is only trained professionals, soldiers, and people who can logically make that choice. I would want to try and stop him if I was in the school, but I doubt I would've actually had the nerve to tackle him. I can't, and neither can anyone else, blame people who have never been in that kind of situation to act selflessly. |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 55/181 EXP: 192878 Next: 13564 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 6096 days Last view: 2883 days |
Posted by Dr_Death16 Precisely. And to shoot down a counter-argument, the reason they fought back on Flight 93 was that they knew they'd die on the plane no matter what. When you know your death is imminent, it makes it easier to say "ah, screw it, let's try to stop these bastards before they kill anyone else". |
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Ropa Alcoholic Level: 59 Posts: 173/737 EXP: 1584669 Next: 88459 Since: 02-20-07 From: The North Side Last post: 5453 days Last view: 2588 days |
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Level: 75 Posts: 974/1301 EXP: 3716991 Next: 109913 Since: 02-19-07 From: Canada |
You know, I still don't see how a double murder with the suspect not in custody doesn't warrant a lockdown. Stupid, stupid choice. |
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