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RetroRain
Posted on 01-24-14 09:26 PM (rev. 4 of 01-24-14 09:37 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 155522


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I need a Famitracker Music Composer to take a one-minute and thirty-three second MP3 that I have and convert it to a NSF file by composing it from scratch in Famitracker.

The only reason I'm asking is because I don't know anything about music. And this is coming from someone who has spent some time messing around with Famitracker. I don't know the names of the instruments in the song and I don't know how to reproduce them in NES quality.

I need this one song made for a possible new NES ROM hack that I will be doing. I say possible, because I am still uncertain if I want to go through with it, but having this one song made to go along with the intro sequence will give me a better idea and the possible motivation I need if I want to pursue this project.

I figure any Famitracker music expert could compose this song no problem. The song is already made, so all you would have to do is convert it based on what you hear.

I will not disclose the project or game I'm hacking at this time, as it is very early in development (I have done a Code/Data Log playthrough of the game I may be hacking, so I know where all of the free space is in the ROM).

If you are capable of doing this for me, send me a PM, and I will send you the MP3 that has to be converted. In the meantime, while I am waiting, I will be attempting to try to convert this MP3 myself, although I am not confident that I will be successful. I will also be working on the intro sequence in the ROM.

This could wind up being an amazing ROM hack, that I expect very little development time. I'm estimating a 6-month develeopment period.

Thanks.

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Mike-Tech
Posted on 01-27-14 05:18 AM Link | Quote | ID: 155544

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Not trying to insult your intellgence here, but what you're asking for is impossible and idiotic.

I will say this, if your mp3 came from a specific console I "might" be able to do:
SPC2MIDI which is what I speciallze in, NSf2MIDI or any conversion sound system out there available on the net.
It will be up to you to take the midi I export to adjust the channels enough for it to sound decently on nsf format.

I rather you work with midi's and let famitracker do the rest of the work for you while you tweak it up and get it ready for export as .nsf format.

That would be the best route to go for your project.



RetroRain
Posted on 01-27-14 07:14 AM Link | Quote | ID: 155545


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I may have worded my post wrong. And at the same time, made the post pre-maturely.

I KNOW that it is impossible to convert a MP3 to NSF. I just wanted a NES version of the song that was in the MP3. I realize that there would be a loss of instruments, and it wouldn't be perfect. I get that. I just wanted someone who knows how to read music notes, and understand all of the music lingo, who could actually compose the song in Famitracker. Just as you would take your favorite song, and compose it in Mario Paint, you would hear the MP3, and use the FamiTracker to try to make it sound like the music as best as you can. It's obviously not going to sound EXACTLY like the actual song.

And as for my post being pre-mature, the ideas I have for the project are pretty good, and I started the project, but it's weird, because I'm conflicted at the moment. I want to do the project, but I don't think I have the will to sit there and do all of the work that is necessary to make it happen. After doing my Megaman conversion, I'm working with a different game, and I would literally have to have the same level of patience I did with that project, and at the moment I don't have it. Every game is different and has its own special code and what it does in the banks, and I just don't know if I have the patience to actually sit there and figure everything out again. I was thinking of making this a Game Maker project too, which would cut out all of the reverse-engineering hassle, but again, I know the amout of work involved. If I did it as a ROM hack, I estimate 6 months, but as a homebrew in Game Maker, it could take just as long, if not longer.

So I'm just going to drop this thread for now. Maybe at a later time when I'm more certain about the project I'll ask for help with the music.

Thanks.

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Mike-Tech
Posted on 01-27-14 11:51 AM Link | Quote | ID: 155547

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Posted by RetroRain
I may have worded my post wrong. And at the same time, made the post pre-maturely.

I KNOW that it is impossible to convert a MP3 to NSF. I just wanted a NES version of the song that was in the MP3. I realize that there would be a loss of instruments, and it wouldn't be perfect. I get that. I just wanted someone who knows how to read music notes, and understand all of the music lingo, who could actually compose the song in Famitracker. Just as you would take your favorite song, and compose it in Mario Paint, you would hear the MP3, and use the FamiTracker to try to make it sound like the music as best as you can. It's obviously not going to sound EXACTLY like the actual song.



Thanks.


Backup for a minute, so if all you needed was a nsf sound track to be in .mp3 format it shouldn't be hard at all.
I imagine your hacking a modern day game system judging by what your wanting.
I can export the soundtrack .nsf to .wav and let a program like this:
http://www.totalrecorder.com/
Save it into mp3 format without much work, if thats what you need let me know and I'll attempt it.

Let me know on what you want to do, later for now.

RetroRain
Posted on 01-27-14 10:19 PM (rev. 6 of 01-27-14 10:24 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 155550


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Let me show you what I was going for, just for the heck of it:

A very rough version of the intro I'm going for, so you can get idea of what I was trying to accomplish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBgl9jO9AII

Now, if only I had a NES version of that theme. I really got to learn how to compose music one of these days.

If I am to do this on the NES, then I would re-construct a new title screen, and have the scanlines scroll the screen to the right, and use sprites to display the title. I would also have the storyboard text pop up first when you load the game, and the title screen after that. It would fit the music perfectly.

If I do this on Game Maker, it would be a similar thing. On one hand, I want this as a ROM hack, because you can play it on the real thing, and it has a certain quality to it. On the other hand, if I do this in Game Maker, I have more creative potential to do the things I want to do, but better. I'm limited by what is already in the Zelda 1 ROM.

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Posted on 01-28-14 12:03 PM Link | Quote | ID: 155551

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Posted by RetroRain
Let me show you what I was going for, just for the heck of it:

A very rough version of the intro I'm going for, so you can get idea of what I was trying to accomplish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBgl9jO9AII

Now, if only I had a NES version of that theme. I really got to learn how to compose music one of these days.



It seems doable but I have a question ?
Whats the name of the song thats playing, if I know that I'll check around the net for a midi version of it.

Have you looked at infidelts loz hack, how he changed the music, you could ask him what would needed to pull this off.
Since the nes uses 5 instruments channels, the song you want, will need to be modified abit and tested for MMC5 music engine.
Hit me up on youtube with the song name, if I can't do it I'll let you know immediately.

Lastly check into squaresofts snes titles and check the game intros.
I'm sure one of their games might have a intro that would suit your project very well.

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Posted on 01-30-14 10:04 AM (rev. 2 of 01-30-14 10:27 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 155565


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The name of the track is called "Wilderland." It's from the movie score of The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug. I already tried looking for the midi version of it. There doesn't appear to be one. If you happen to find one, kudos to you.

But it's not a big deal, really. My motivation for this project has died right now.

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Posted on 01-30-14 04:05 PM Link | Quote | ID: 155567


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Posted by RetroRain
The name of the track is called "Wilderland." It's from the movie score of The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug. I already tried looking for the midi version of it. There doesn't appear to be one. If you happen to find one, kudos to you.

But it's not a big deal, really. My motivation for this project has died right now.
You actually renewed my interest in this kind of stuff. I'm hoping to find a midi of the title song of The Conduit (don't ask) and the Red Comet music from Super Mario Galaxy. I do have a score of the latter, but I can't easily read those note-for-note, and I don't know how to best translate some of the notes into NSF code.

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