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Anshinin
Posted on 12-24-13 07:47 PM (rev. 2 of 12-24-13 07:47 PM) Link | Quote | ID: 155278

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This is my hack of Zelda 3 link to the past and will be a complete overhaul of the game. As the title implies it is meant to be a spiritual sequel to the Zelda games on gameboy! Yes, I chose Zelda3 on purpose and not the oracle games to hack. I've been working and have had a lot of help from other people, some who even use this board!

It shares many similarities with the oracle games such as overworld style, story relations, dungeon scheme, bosses, and much more hidden things. It's been in development for about 6 months now and I've made it rather far I think, of course none of this would be possible without some of the help I've received from people like puzzledude, conn, seph, etc.

So without further ado, here are some screenshots and videos!






Goldstar item (by conn) and some new music!



Hurricane spin and nimbus (by conn)



Fairy Flippers


Outside of that uh, any questions or feedback?

Mike-Tech
Posted on 12-24-13 10:51 PM Link | Quote | ID: 155280

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You eh, I recognize you from kafuka ville. :/
Well for starters I like what you have man, but if its going to feel and play like the gb/ds series.
For gods sake, please update the inventory gfx, update the npc gfx throughout the game.
I dont see many people doing that to fully utilize their hacks these days.

I like your boat, but it needs abit more color to it, brighten the wood a tad bit.

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Posted on 12-25-13 12:10 AM Link | Quote | ID: 155281


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Looking good! Pretty much what MikeTechno said I agree with. Go the extra mile with the graphics and it'll only make the project that much better. That boat is wicked!

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Posted on 12-25-13 01:56 AM Link | Quote | ID: 155283


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Sheesh, looks a little like Minish Cap!

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Posted on 12-25-13 03:54 AM Link | Quote | ID: 155284


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Posted by MikeTechno
You eh, I recognize you from kafuka ville. :/
Well for starters I like what you have man, but if its going to feel and play like the gb/ds series.
For gods sake, please update the inventory gfx, update the npc gfx throughout the game.
I dont see many people doing that to fully utilize their hacks these days.

I like your boat, but it needs abit more color to it, brighten the wood a tad bit.



As I recall, the menu is restricted to 2BPP graphics, making it more difficult to modify them to the standard of the rest of the hack. It looks amazing so far though.

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Anshinin
Posted on 12-25-13 05:38 AM (rev. 2 of 12-25-13 05:44 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 155285

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Well, I should mention the graphics in the oracle games were insanely lazy, this is just adhering to the style. I may be a rom hacker but I'm not crazy, updating all the sprites and graphics to an unreachable standard especially with how finicky Zelda hacking is, yeah no.

Xeruss this is correct, and I personally think the menu looks fine. Again the graphics in the oracle games were primitive and lazy, no need to copy the crappy stuff just because much nostalgic for oracle of ages/seasons.

I'm not trying to be rude but you are asking a lot of me, re-updating menu graphics? Sprites??? And the wood is as bright as its gonna get, lttp has an extremely limited color palette. EXTREMELY.

And yes it looks like minish cap, that's a handheld Zelda, sue me.

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Posted on 12-25-13 05:44 AM Link | Quote | ID: 155286

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Posted by Xeruss
Posted by MikeTechno
You eh, I recognize you from kafuka ville. :/
Well for starters I like what you have man, but if its going to feel and play like the gb/ds series.
For gods sake, please update the inventory gfx, update the npc gfx throughout the game.
I dont see many people doing that to fully utilize their hacks these days.

I like your boat, but it needs abit more color to it, brighten the wood a tad bit.



As I recall, the menu is restricted to 2BPP graphics, making it more difficult to modify them to the standard of the rest of the hack. It looks amazing so far though.


Well I'm not really referring to the menu.
I mean't if he could work with the items, some enemies and other stuff it would really make his hack stand out more.
I mean if he sticks with the original graphics...
To me it doesn't entice me or lure me to play it much because I would be bored with it in a matter of minutes.

I meant to ask something as well that no one has bothered to ask.
Can hyrule magic get a bit of an update ? o0
Black magics export gfx and import feature, would go so well with hyrule magic right about now.
I wish fusoya would work on it some do it but he would turn it down within in instant.

Anshinin
Posted on 12-25-13 05:49 AM (rev. 2 of 12-25-13 05:50 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 155287

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Hyrule magic has been dead for years and fusoya specifically said for MON not to release the source code.

These also aren't the same graphics from lttp AT ALL. When's the last time you played?

Zelda3 hacking is complicated as it is there isn't a lot of room for graphical improvement unless you reallocate all the graphics brand new like parallel universes for example

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Posted on 12-25-13 06:30 AM Link | Quote | ID: 155288

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Posted by Anshinin

These also aren't the same graphics from lttp AT ALL. When's the last time you played?

Zelda3 hacking is complicated as it is there isn't a lot of room for graphical improvement unless you reallocate all the graphics brand new like parallel universes for example


Easy man, calm your nervers for abit alright ? :|
When I said change some of your graphics I meant it. :/
Meaning what you say ? how about your inventory items ?
Check out your screen you hosted up, all new you say ? right I recognize some of those graphics from 1991 ? o0
How about you sift through the exported allgfx.bin file and update the water tiles abit more ?

Just trying to give you some some critique, not trashing your work or anything like that.
Its your hack so you can do what you want with it.

stay cool man and merry christmas.


amarcum81
Posted on 12-25-13 07:59 AM (rev. 2 of 12-25-13 08:00 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 155289


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Really cool! Always great to see ALTTP get some love from the ROM hacking community! I like the GFX changes quite a bit actually. Any chance of you releasing a "vanilla" version of the hack with the new GFX and music inserted? I'd be willing to play through the original again with the "new look." Adds a fresh feel to the game IMO. Might also be a great way for you to get more feedback on the GFX as a whole... to actually see them in real time.

Great work, hope to see this progress. So many Zelda 3 hacks get started and end up in the scrap pile after awhile. Looking forward to this one.


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Posted on 12-25-13 06:31 PM Link | Quote | ID: 155295


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Some of the comments remind me, why it is never a good thing to bring any info on the hack out untill it is done.

If anyone would have at least a small insight of how difficult and buggy Alttp hacking is, and how the original rom is stiffed with data, they would look uppon this work as a divine miracle; specially of the gfx and asm changes, which are a result of many people. Bringing in the Gold star asm as well as that new ship is close to impossible.

So, moegami/Anshinin, keep doing what you have been doing and make the game as you please. If you look at the current status of Alttp hacks, you will see that they are extremly rare.

I also hope that you will decide to go with the rom format, which is incompatible with actual carts to avoid back-stabbing cart sellers from making profit.

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The person who made Hyrule Magic was Sephiroth3, not Fusoya. HM is buggy, so basically there is no stable main editor for this game.

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Posted by puzzledude

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The person who made Hyrule Magic was Sephiroth3, not Fusoya. HM is buggy, so basically there is no stable main editor for this game.


I already know that and I know sephiroth doesn't want to attempt tp update hyrule magic.
All I was thinking if fusoya could make the exporf and import feature into HM and nothing more.
It would be much more better than dealing with cmd prompt to do it. :/

Only wishfull thinking on my part. :|

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I registered just to say this totally f#cking rules.

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amarcum81
Posted on 01-27-14 09:17 AM (rev. 2 of 01-27-14 09:18 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 155546


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Posted by puzzledude
I also hope that you will decide to go with the rom format, which is incompatible with actual carts to avoid back-stabbing cart sellers from making profit.


This comment just rubbed me the wrong way. Not much profit can be gained from putting hacks on real carts to be played on real hardware. I've made SNES repros for many years and don't consider myself to be "back-stabbing" anyone! Materials to make these carts can be quite costly and time consuming... Finding the correct donor carts/boards, EPROM burners, labels, ink, shipping materials, etc. I would think that some of the good people in the ROM hacking community would be honored to know that old school gamers like myself liked their work so much as to have it reproduced on a cart to be played the way it was meant to be played, on an actual console. In fact, I've carted both of your Zelda 3 hacks (Goddess of Wisdom, Parallel Remodel) puzzledude, because I found them to be very well done, and wanted that experience of playing a "new" Zelda game on my SNES. The same goes for Parallel Worlds.

I'm sure there are those out there that make carts purely for profit gain, I've seen it time and time again on eBay. But not all of us are like that. I've sold "Parallel Worlds" for around $30, making only around $5 profit simply for my time and effort in collecting materials and assembling the cart. Other hacks like Super Metroid Redesign require a little more work, as that hack uses two chips. Any profit I've made has always gone into buying more materials or donations to the emulation community for things like the Dolphin emulator and Project64.

I think it really should be left up to the player if they really want a cart to be made. I realize everyone has a different opinion on this subject, and an entire thread could probably be made with all of those opinions heard. Places like timewalk games do have higher prices, but look at what you are getting with the games they have for sale. In most cases they offer boxes, manuals, maps and provide really nice reproductions.

Back on topic, this hack looks really nice with the work done so far, and yes... Zelda 3 hacks are rare, especially good ones. I hope to see this one make it.


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I loved how my Megaman Ultra has been packaged and sold.

For someone to consider my work worthy of all that time and effort, to be packaged as a real nes product, is truely an amazing feeling.

Ive even gone to extreme lengths, in hoping my Zelda hack can be injected on an actual MMC5 cart.

Ive completely rehauled my entire $5C00-$5FFF exram, so that the only things that are required are 1mb prg-rom & 1mb chr-rom chips. Im using none of the extra features that MMC5 uses, in hopes i can have this packaged.

Im saddend cause my work will never play on powerpaks or the n8 everdrive, cause the chips are only 512kb each.

Anyway from a rom hackers perspective such as myself, I welcome my work on being considered for such a high honor.

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Posted by amarcum81

Materials to make these carts can be quite costly and time consuming... Finding the correct donor carts/boards, EPROM burners, labels, ink, shipping materials, etc. I would think that some of the good people in the ROM hacking community would be honored to know that old school gamers like myself liked their work so much as to have it reproduced on a cart to be played the way it was meant to be played, on an actual console. In fact, I've carted both of your Zelda 3 hacks (Goddess of Wisdom, Parallel Remodel) puzzledude, because I found them to be very well done, and wanted that experience of playing a "new" Zelda game on my SNES. The same goes for Parallel Worlds.


I can understand your oppinion, but I'm just an anti-cart person. You also have anti-emulator people etc.

Of course it is nice to know, that players like, what you did. The only problem is the monetary exchange. It was never meant (by me), that someone would make a cart ans sell it. It was meant that my work is used by private individuals for private purposes and that the rom (smc file or on a cart) is not released anywhere. I only support patches.

So it was meant for others to use the patch I released. That way they must own Alttp rom in order to play the game later, on any emulator or flash cart (no money or materials involved).

I also support what RedScorpion did. He made a cart for himself only and played the game on his Snes (everyone should do this for themselves!). He also translated the game to german and made another cart for himself.

Guess what, I didn't know, that you made a cart of my games (isn't that doing something behind the back). If you really charged 30 dollars and made no more than 10 carts for your friend that's fine; but Goddess of Wisdom was sold on ebay for 305 euros (around 400 dollars) when its repro was first presented on ebay. Everyone wanted to have this rare EU cart and the price went sky high.

The person who made the bidding on ebay was from France. I don't know him and he doesn't know me. He never asked me, if he can made the cart, nor did he informed me about it (isn't this behind the back). And he made a lot of money by selling something, he doesn't own (isn't this "stabbing").

Some dumb players might think that the game was actually released by Nintendo. The people who actually made the game were barely seen (not stated at all).

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I also like a Super Metroid hack Eris 2013 by Digital Mantra and Ice Metal by Green Kirby/Crysalis/Lunaria, who was also an admin on this site for a while. I've finished both games on emus and loved them; but I would never make a cart of their game; and specially would never sell it for money.

Where I'm from there are no repros whatsoever. No chips and Snes consoles to get. Where I'm from repros are forbbiden and any such repro shop would be closed in no-time.

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