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| NARFNra |
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 Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 31/114 EXP: 87645 Next: 1975 Since: 02-13-10 From: Texas Last post: 1806 days Last view: 1806 days |
New release! Demo #3: http://acmlm.kafuka.org/uploader/get.php?id=4297
Changes: Magnet Man (The Underground Dynamo) and Gemini Man's (The Mysterious Warehouse) stages are now completable, meaning all 8 robot master stages are mostly finished! Some palettes have been changed, namely Hard Man's in particular, and boss AI has been slightly altered on a few robot masters. I think that, if no glaring glitches present themselves, I'll take a break after this update. I start school this week, so I'm going to be a little crunched for time. I've got plans for the Doc Robot stages, though... Any thoughts? edit: whoops, link was wrong. it's been fixed |
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 Crow Level: 42 Posts: 29/387 EXP: 512359 Next: 9003 Since: 12-01-11 From: Hungary Last post: 1310 days Last view: 1201 days |
Magnet Man's stage is good, but it's... Err... Short, like my Ice Man stage. It's much shorter than the original level was. Gemini Man has some glitches, because you have used Ladder Top property for all ladders. Also, at Gemini Man's Room, using Jnes, you can scroll through the right wall, and go into the last room with the black background, before the Boss chamber. Also, I don't really like that red for background in Hard Man's level. I think the blue was better. But it's only me. I only checked 3 levels, more to come later. I have to finish Top Man's beta graphics, huh. And I see you repaired the music. |
| NARFNra |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 33/114 EXP: 87645 Next: 1975 Since: 02-13-10 From: Texas Last post: 1806 days Last view: 1806 days |
I'll fix Gemini's level this week.
Magnet's is short on purpose, because I made the boss sort of bothersome. Not hard, but... Anyway. I plan to work on the Doc Robot stages starting Monday. Wish me luck. |
| Zieldak |
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Crow Level: 42 Posts: 34/387 EXP: 512359 Next: 9003 Since: 12-01-11 From: Hungary Last post: 1310 days Last view: 1201 days |
I have made a custom tileset which you can have if you want. It was designed for MM1, (32 16×16 tiles) but I can make a 8×8 tileset from it for MM3. It was made from scratch, huh.
And good luck on the Doc Robot Stages! |
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Crow Level: 42 Posts: 42/387 EXP: 512359 Next: 9003 Since: 12-01-11 From: Hungary Last post: 1310 days Last view: 1201 days |
It's been almost 2 weeks when you last posted something about your hack... Any news?
EDIT: Well... Almost 4 weeks after the last post already and no new information. It seems the project is either dead or NARFNra doesn't want to share the progress on the hack... |
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Crow Level: 42 Posts: 57/387 EXP: 512359 Next: 9003 Since: 12-01-11 From: Hungary Last post: 1310 days Last view: 1201 days |
I'm bringing news from NARF. I contacted him through YouTube yesterday.
He's been lately busy with school and he doesn't have much time to work on Memento. That's why there isn't any new information about the hack. Hopefully, the project is not dead, it's just on ice. NARF doesn't know when he will be able to continue the project, but it won't be cancelled. |
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Koopa Level: 24 Posts: 29/105 EXP: 74969 Next: 3156 Since: 01-09-11 From: United States Last post: 3198 days Last view: 2445 days |
I'm considering downloading this when it is in a further stage of development. From what I'm seeing thus far, it's looking very promising. |
| NARFNra |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 34/114 EXP: 87645 Next: 1975 Since: 02-13-10 From: Texas Last post: 1806 days Last view: 1806 days |
I graduate in 6 weeks, so when Summer comes around I may continue this.
Judging from my old work, the hack is pretty mediocre... but I feel that I might be able to make it a little better. Anyway, just noting that it's not completely dead. |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 40/114 EXP: 87645 Next: 1975 Since: 02-13-10 From: Texas Last post: 1806 days Last view: 1806 days |
I've decided to start up this project again.
I'm currently working on making Top Man's level better, but I need some help. I don't know how to make the Cat minibosses in Top Man's stage work properly; I can't seem to figure out how to integrate their pieces so that they disappear after they die and don't appear until they teleport in. Does anyone know how they work? |
| DurfarC |
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 Shyguy Level: 24 Posts: 36/97 EXP: 71896 Next: 6229 Since: 10-23-08 From: Norway Last post: 1956 days Last view: 354 days |
I think I could know why. Normally, enemies per stage have to be sorted by the screen they appear on, then by their X-position and then by their Y-position, in the way that enemy #00 is the first one you will see when playing through a level, then enemy #01 appears, then enemy #02 etc. In Mega Fle X the sorting of enemies is taken care of automatically. However, the cats in Top Man's stage are exceptions to this rule, here it has to be in this order:
Giant Cat (init) Giant Cat (eyes) Giant Cat (body) Giant Cat (tail) Giant Cat (body 2) With enemy storting enabled, they will appear in a different order based on their X-position when you move them around, messing everything up. If you go to Config in the menu, you can disable automatic enemy sorting, arrange the body parts in the proper way, and then turn it on again. I saw that I had fixed the order of the body parts in my own ROM hacks, and I wouldn't bother with that if it wasn't needed, I guess - that's why I think this could be the reason. Let's hope it works anyway! 
I think the same rule applies for the final boss actually, if you're going to move that one as well. |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 41/114 EXP: 87645 Next: 1975 Since: 02-13-10 From: Texas Last post: 1806 days Last view: 1806 days |
Thanks for replying. I'm not sure that's what's causing the problem, though. I went in and changed the ids so they worked out though, since it'd probably have been a problem later had I not.
My issue is I'm not really sure how the game handles them. I can insert the sprite group that forms the cat, but it doesn't have most of the body. I can try adding that body as tiles, but then it won't disappear if the sprites die and it will sit there before the sprites teleport in. Is there a sprite or something I'm missing? |
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Shyguy Level: 24 Posts: 37/97 EXP: 71896 Next: 6229 Since: 10-23-08 From: Norway Last post: 1956 days Last view: 354 days |
Hmmm, weird. Well, at least there are supposed to be tiles/TSA blocks where the cat will appear, and these are set with the last 4 pallette bytes of the level, which are 0F0F0F0F. All black, that is. My guess is that it's the enemy itself that then colors these tiles orange when it appears, and then colors them black again when it's dead. Have you checked that as well? 'Cause if you included all 5 sprites I mentioned and placed them in the correct order, the problem should be something else than the sprites themselves.
Edit: I print screen'ed the data that I think have to be set in a specific way: 
To be sure that the correct cat graphics are there in the background, just edit these colors temporary, so that you can see it, like this:  |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 42/114 EXP: 87645 Next: 1975 Since: 02-13-10 From: Texas Last post: 1806 days Last view: 1806 days |
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 Buzzy Beetle Level: 44 Posts: 103/378 EXP: 578944 Next: 32341 Since: 04-30-07 From: Boo York, Home Of The Big Pumpkin Last post: 1251 days Last view: 1251 days |
 Can't wait to see what else is in store...  ____________________ - Nikki |
| NARFNra |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 43/114 EXP: 87645 Next: 1975 Since: 02-13-10 From: Texas Last post: 1806 days Last view: 1806 days |
Ahaha, wow, I apparently forgot to put in the proper tiles like you said. You were right, thanks for your help.
Anyway, I think I've done a pretty good job on fixing up Top Man's stage so far. I'm gonna try and make the other stages better soon, expect a demo within the next month or so. I haven't touched it in a while so I've lost some practice, but I'm looking forward to making things more interesting. A quick question: Does anyone know how large the Wily stage data is? One big issue with MM3 is short Wily stages, and I was wondering if expanding them would be easy or if they run right up into other data. |
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Shyguy Level: 24 Posts: 38/97 EXP: 71896 Next: 6229 Since: 10-23-08 From: Norway Last post: 1956 days Last view: 354 days |
Posted by NARFNraYou can expand them, apparently. I wil quote what some others said about it when I asked long ago: Posted by TrinitroMan Posted by kuja killer Wily stage 5 (the fake Dr. Wily boss) seems to be an exception though - I noticed that this exact level still only has 2 screens in every MM3 hack I played. I guess there could be similar problems with Wily stage 4 because of the teleporters, although it could be that the data for those can be found somewhere. But Wily 1-3 should be no problem, and Wily 6 can be extended too - it has been extended in many hacks. |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 45/114 EXP: 87645 Next: 1975 Since: 02-13-10 From: Texas Last post: 1806 days Last view: 1806 days |
I think I've figured it out.
I've done some fiddling and it looks like Wily Stages 2, 3, and 5 don't just share graphical data; they're actually sharing screen presets as well. Wily 2 is presets 0-A, Wily 3 is presets B-17, and Wily 5 is presets 18 and 19. Which means that if you want to expand any of them you have to take possible expansion away from the others... Hm. I wonder how hard it'd be to repoint those away into some empty space in the rom? Is there any empty space in that block? How would I check? Either way, if 1F is the max number of presets, you can expand those three levels a total of 6 screens. Not very much, but if you're willing to make do with a short Wily 2, you could have a long Wily 3, or vice versa.. hmmm. |
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Shyguy Level: 24 Posts: 39/97 EXP: 71896 Next: 6229 Since: 10-23-08 From: Norway Last post: 1956 days Last view: 354 days |
Posted by NARFNraOh that's right, I totally forgot about that. Pointing to some empty space and use that sounds like a good idea - unfortunately I don't know which data is used or not throughout the ROM, so hopefully someone with more knowledge can answer that. If nothing can be done or it's way too hard to fix, then at least you have the 6 extra screen presets you mentioned. You could also reuse some screen presets if, say, you want to make a Rush Jet section like the one in Needle Man's Doc Robot stage (some screens with many enemies and no solid ground at all), a spike drop (scrolling downwards multiple screens, using a preset, then another preset, then repeat the two same presets) or something like that. |
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Koopa Level: 25 Posts: 68/114 EXP: 87645 Next: 1975 Since: 02-13-10 From: Texas Last post: 1806 days Last view: 1806 days |
Just a reminder that this project isn't dead. Watch this space, cause I'm gonna be uploading an actual preview video soon.
In the mean time, have this... 
First stage theme I've ever imported. I'm really proud of this. I wonder if anyone knows the original? |
| Zynk |
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 Purple Leever Level: 32 Posts: 41/209 EXP: 195961 Next: 10481 Since: 10-19-12 Last post: 79 days Last view: 4 hours |
The first tune would be from SRW's SRX/Banpresto theme?
Btw, how did you get Megaman on the titlescreen? ____________________  |
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